Advice from Cesar Millan

[RobiLee]

Oh I adore him! I went to one of his seminars this past August in Columbus, and he's comming back to Columbus on July 22nd!!!!

Hey, Angie! Anna and I want to go. We should all meet there. Do you have any more details. Any one else interested in going?

[IRescue452]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker. I believe he works with the behavior problems that are annoying the owner's but doesn't say much (at least on the show where all the other dog owners are watching) about how the dog has come to develope these problems. He treats the problem but does nothing to improve the life of the dogs. I had his show on demand on cable and there are other problems with the dogs that he needs to adress on the show. Imagine an episode where a border collie is having problem barking. He adresses the barking, but not the fact that this dog's only daily exercise is to be let out into the backyard. Don't you think that this would be important to adress in front of all viewers? There was one with an obese dalmatian and food aggressive neuroticism. The lady admited she never walks the dog, it lives in the house all day. He did suggest a daily schedule with a walk as part of it, but as a viewer I could have missed that two seconds of the 23 minute show. He's got a lot to learn as a dog trainer and a person. As a sociologist in training I forsee a big fall when he realizes he isn't superman.

[pitc9]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker. I believe he works with the behavior problems that are annoying the owner's but doesn't say much (at least on the show where all the other dog owners are watching) about how the dog has come to develope these problems. He treats the problem but does nothing to improve the life of the dogs. I had his show on demand on cable and there are other problems with the dogs that he needs to adress on the show. Imagine an episode where a border collie is having problem barking. He adresses the barking, but not the fact that this dog's only daily exercise is to be let out into the backyard. Don't you think that this would be important to adress in front of all viewers? There was one with an obese dalmatian and food aggressive neuroticism. The lady admited she never walks the dog, it lives in the house all day. He did suggest a daily schedule with a walk as part of it, but as a viewer I could have missed that two seconds of the 23 minute show. He's got a lot to learn as a dog trainer and a person. As a sociologist in training I forsee a big fall when he realizes he isn't superman.

In all of his shows he talks about how important walking and exercising is, he always says that one of the most important things. He always has the people walk the dogs to see how they do it, and if they are doing it right.
He always says that he's not doing anything special, he's just treating the dog like a Dog.
You respond/treat a dog like:
#1 An animal
#2 A Dog
#3 It's Breed
#4 It's Name
Just like you said "typical solutions", he trains people to train their dogs to do typical things and stop them from doing not so typical things.
He doesn't think of himself as Superman, it's the people that
he helps that do!

[lizbud]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker. I believe he works with the behavior problems that are annoying the owner's but doesn't say much (at least on the show where all the other dog owners are watching) about how the dog has come to develope these problems. He treats the problem but does nothing to improve the life of the dogs. I had his show on demand on cable and there are other problems with the dogs that he needs to adress on the show. Imagine an episode where a border collie is having problem barking. He adresses the barking, but not the fact that this dog's only daily exercise is to be let out into the backyard. Don't you think that this would be important to adress in front of all viewers? There was one with an obese dalmatian and food aggressive neuroticism. The lady admited she never walks the dog, it lives in the house all day. He did suggest a daily schedule with a walk as part of it, but as a viewer I could have missed that two seconds of the 23 minute show. He's got a lot to learn as a dog trainer and a person. As a sociologist in training I forsee a big fall when he realizes he isn't superman.

I've never read a more condescending, pompous post from a non
professional dog person.While it might be interesting to know how the
dog acquired the problem behavior, it is not neccessary to correcting
the problem.

Thanks for the link Anna.

[cali]

lizbud shall I assume you are a huge fan of cesar? because there is NOTHING condecending that IRescue wrote, the one and ONLY thing she did was NOT sing the praises of a trainer that she believes is not all he is cracked up to be.

[IRescue452]

I am not saying he's a bad trainer, I'm just saying he's lacking points he should be addresing. I haven't seen this pug episode, but I'll tell you that most professionals do not support a trainer who practices "hanging" methods (as they are categorized). A spinning condition is by no means aggressive or dangerous, so you wouldn't go to this inhuman and extreme method to stop it.

[ParNone]

I watched him last night and found him quite interesting. So I decided to try out his techniques on the Collies. The goal: for less barking, especially when I'm not outside with them.

I put 12 inch leash tabs on their collars this morning, so I could control them all day. I started by making them "Sit" and "Wait" for about a minute before letting them outside. I usually make them wait at doors and don't have issues with bolting, but it's a casual wait for a few seconds and I don't usually make them do a formal "Sit" or "Down".

Everytime they started barking at something, I did that "ssstttt" sound to stop the behavior that Cesar makes, put them in a "Down" and didn't release them until they showed calm and submissive gestures. As long as they were alert and anxious, they stayed in the down. When I released them, I threw a toy for them to fetch and we'd play a lil'.

I followed through the same routine inside the house too. So we did this all day long. The transformation was amazing. This is the quietest night I can remember in a long time. They are being so calm. I took Oz to Petsmart and he's always so excited there. So many people to meet and greet. Oh my gosh, he was much calmer. He still wanted to meet everybody, but he wasn't as rambunctious trying to jump on them.

I'm going to do this all week and see if it totally solves my outside barking issue. I'll report back, with the results.

Par...

[.sarah]

I watched him last night and found him quite interesting. So I decided to try out his techniques on the Collies. The goal: for less barking, especially when I'm not outside with them.

I put 12 inch leash tabs on their collars this morning, so I could control them all day. I started by making them "Sit" and "Wait" for about a minute before letting them outside. I usually make them wait at doors and don't have issues with bolting, but it's a casual wait for a few seconds and I don't usually make them do a formal "Sit" or "Down".

Everytime they started barking at something, I did that "ssstttt" sound to stop the behavior that Cesar makes, put them in a "Down" and didn't release them until they showed calm and submissive gestures. As long as they were alert and anxious, they stayed in the down. When I released them, I threw a toy for them to fetch and we'd play a lil'.

I followed through the same routine inside the house too. So we did this all day long. The transformation was amazing. This is the quietest night I can remember in a long time. They are being so calm. I took Oz to Petsmart and he's always so excited there. So many people to meet and greet. Oh my gosh, he was much calmer. He still wanted to meet everybody, but he wasn't as rambunctious trying to jump on them.

I'm going to do this all week and see if it totally solves my outside barking issue. I'll report back, with the results.

Par...

That's really neat. I wish I had seen that episode. Nova is really bad about barking outside, and Mandy's bad about barking inside. lol. Luka is a *very* quiet dog. She just grunts every now and then, like when she changes sleeping positions

[shihtzulover850]

I'm still a bit skeptical about him. A lot of the training tips he gives on his show work because they are typical solutions, not because he's a miracle worker.

Yes but a lot of these people he helps are inexperienced dog owneres who know nothing about the breed or dogs in general! So they do not know what the "typical solutions" are.

[pitc9]

Yeah we should meet up!
It's one thing to watch him on TV, but when you are right THERE hearing him talk... he just draws you in. He's an amazing person that does amazing things, thats for sure!
Just within the past week they announced his return to Columbus, and is being hosted by the same rescue group as last time (SK9 Scottie) and they have also added a Rottie Rescue!!:
July 22, 2006
Ohio Rotteweiler Rescue and
SK9 Scottish Terrier Rescue
Columbus, OH

I was also eyeing this one:

August 5, 2006
White Shepherd Genetics Club
Davisburg, Michigan
PLEASE CHECK BACK FOR
REGISTRATION INFORMATION

Columbus is about 3 hours away from me, and the Michigan one is about 4 1/2.
Which one would you girls prefer to go to?
I am bringing a friend, and she is bringing her hubby, and I plan on dragging my hubby along too (he said he'd go!!! ) It would be great to have a big group of people! My friend and I were talking about going to Michigan because we could make an overnight stay out of it and go gamble!
But we don't now for sure yet, but a decision has to be made asap because as soon as the tickets go one sale, they go FAST!! But the Columbus seminar was just announced, so there's still time.
Tickets were $80 last year and included a lunch from Subway.

Here's his site:
http://dogpsychologycenter.com/newseminars.html
Make sure to sign up for his monthly newsletter!!!

[anna_66]

Columbus is about 3 hours away from me, and the Michigan one is about 4 1/2.
Which one would you girls prefer to go to?
I am bringing a friend, and she is bringing her hubby, and I plan on dragging my hubby along too (he said he'd go!!! ) It would be great to have a big group of people! My friend and I were talking about going to Michigan because we could make an overnight stay out of it and go gamble!
But we don't now for sure yet, but a decision has to be made asap because as soon as the tickets go one sale, they go FAST!! But the Columbus seminar was just announced, so there's still time.
Tickets were $80 last year and included a lunch from Subway.

Hmmm I was just talking to Robin and since I may be going to the California bbq (it's July 22nd too) she may go to the Columbus one with Alden.
But I'll talk to her again and maybe we could do the Michigan trip...who knows we'll see

And I don't think he thinks he's superman at all. He's just doing like Angie said, treating the dog like a dog. No, he can't fix the problem in one show and obviously they don't show everything from when he's at the people's house but more or less you get an idea of how to train yourself.
At certain times during the show it says not to try this without advice from a trainer (or something along those lines). It's a show just like all the other shows. If you want to know exactly what to do, order his tape I'm sure it goes into more specifics.


Par, just read your post...so how did it go???

[Cincy'sMom]

Let me know which one you guys decide on...I would be interetsed in going!

[pitc9]

For those that want to know....
They posted more info for the August 5th seminar:

August 5, 2006
Clarkston High School Performing Arts Center
6093 Flemings Lake Road
Clarkston, MI 48346
9am - 1 pm
Judy Huston 517-546-3046 or [email protected]
Julie Bennett 248-626-1429 or
[email protected]
Download Seminar Forms at:
www.wsgenetics.org/new.html
More info at:
www.kyra.ws
$80 per person
Proceeds go to White Shepherd Genetics Project.

I still don't know for sure if I'm going to this one or the one in Columbus on July 22nd. Once the dates get closer I'm sure we'll all know better what ones will be better for each of us to go to, and maybe some of us can meet up for it!!

[Suki Wingy]

I know nothing about him, I don't get that channel on my basic cable but I read that article and I basically agree. It would be really interesting to see what he would do with Niño not understanding that he can't weight pull me down the street. It has been 5 years and no training method we've tryed has worked.

[lizbud]

Did anyone watch this Friday's show on TV? Cesar worked with a
couple who owned a Jindo dog. The dog was so vicious no one could
ever touch the dog. Made me wonder how they ever cared for the dog.
Cesar called him a Red Zone animal. Most are judged too vicious to ever
live around people.It was amazing to watch him work with the dog and
"tame" the dog. It all worked out in the end & the people were happy
but very surprised how well the lessons went. I would never have believed
such a wild dog could be brought around.