Say No To Silver Labs

[TORNER RETRIEVERS]

DNA testing has been done to prove they are pure bred. They've also studied the genetic makeup and have ruled out that Wemenier are cross bred in them. AKC accepts them as chocolate labs.

SOME RESPONSES TO SOME OF THE SILVER LABRADOR CLAIMS
One of the Silver breeders state on their site:

"Are Silver Labs Pure bred Labrador Retriever?
DNA testing and mapping of silver labs was done during the close of the Twentieth Century and meticulous investigation of each silver labs ancestry was conducted by investigators from AKC"

The current DNA testing doesn't prove the dog is a purebred Labrador. The DNA testing available only proves that dog A and that dog B are the parents of dog C. No where does it prove that the one or more of the grandparents of dog A wasn't a weim or a weim cross.

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Also one states:

"Silver Labs are pure bred Labrador Retrievers and their ancestry is beyond reproach. Fortunately, kennel clubs around the world do not have the political pressure from mercenary American breeders of "normal" colored labs and already accept silver labs without all the political fuss and pressure being applied to AKC "

Sorry but there isn't a kennel club in the world that recognizes silver Labradors. In every Labrador standard used throughout the world, it states that Labradors come in black, yellow and chocolate.

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This one was a laugher:

"There is no doubt the increase in popularity and demand for Silver Labs is applying significant financial pressure to breeders of black and yellow labs, but there is also little doubt that AKC will eventually have to succumb to the pressure to make silver a recognized color in America."

First of all, the AKC doesn't make the decision on what colors are recognized for each breed. The PARENT CLUB of each breed makes and sets the standards. I can guarantee you that it will be a cold day in you-know-where before the LRC, Inc. would ever recognize this color.

Second of all, as to the "significant financial pressure" that I and other breeders of the "real" colors of Labradors are under - BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! A responsible breeder never breeds for a "color" nor does one breed because of financial reasons. Most responsible breeders don't worry about profit. Why? Because we rarely if ever make one and we do not breed for financial gain.

So you can see that all these claims by the Silver Lab people are far-fetched at best.

[cali]

as far as I am concerned restricting breeds to certain colours is wrong. period. colour has very little to do with what any breed was bred for, BCs colours are restricted to only a few and are not allowed to be mostly white, the conformation world came up with a bogus explaination for it, saying that mostky white BCs dont command the sheeps respect, which is a load of bull, some of the top herding lines in the world are mostly white. they also come in EVERY single colour and markings avaliable in dogs, no colour should be bred for or bred away from, because it has zippo to do with working ability.

I am on the working side of the fence for all breeds, anything that does not affect working ability is NOT nessassary, but if it inhibates working ability(like super long and fluffy coats, shorts muzzles and overly stocky builds) then it needs to be bred away from and avoided.

[sammy101]

as far as I am concerned restricting breeds to certain colours is wrong. period. colour has very little to do with what any breed was bred for, BCs colours are restricted to only a few and are not allowed to be mostly white, the conformation world came up with a bogus explaination for it, saying that mostky white BCs dont command the sheeps respect, which is a load of bull, some of the top herding lines in the world are mostly white. they also come in EVERY single colour and markings avaliable in dogs, no colour should be bred for or bred away from, because it has zippo to do with working ability.

i agree with you.

[.sarah]

as far as I am concerned restricting breeds to certain colours is wrong. period. colour has very little to do with what any breed was bred for, BCs colours are restricted to only a few and are not allowed to be mostly white, the conformation world came up with a bogus explaination for it, saying that mostky white BCs dont command the sheeps respect, which is a load of bull, some of the top herding lines in the world are mostly white. they also come in EVERY single colour and markings avaliable in dogs, no colour should be bred for or bred away from, because it has zippo to do with working ability.

I am on the working side of the fence for all breeds, anything that does not affect working ability is NOT nessassary, but if it inhibates working ability(like super long and fluffy coats, shorts muzzles and overly stocky builds) then it needs to be bred away from and avoided.

Did you read through this thread? These dogs are most likely bred with Weimeraner. If they are mixed breeds, do you still support it?