Say No To Silver Labs

[TORNER RETRIEVERS]

Torner are you a breeder? I'd like to see some of your dogs if you are. I don't like to be a judge of any breeder if I can't see what they have to offer.

I DON'T SEE WHY NOT. BUT ALSO, I DON'T SEE WHY YOU SHOULD HAVE TO "JUDGE" ME AS A BREEDER...IT'S FINE I GUESS, IF THAT'LL MAKE YOU MORE INTERESTED ON THE BREED.

[.sarah]

Ugh, Silver Labs is one of my pet peeves, because people are less inclined to listen because they say that it's "just another color" -- and they don't always believe you when you explain why it's not. In most of the "Silver Labs" I have seen, they have looked more like Weims. They seem to have pointy noses and a more sleek build than any Lab should. I think in some ways this is worse than a "Doodle dog" because they are passing them off as purebreds, and people become so misinformed and then don't want to believe the truth.

IRescue, this is not a color that is genetically produced by Labs. They come in three colors (black, yellow, chocolate) and only three colors. Sometimes mis-marks crop up, like brindling, white marks, tan points, etc. but even then it's usually only a patch instead of an entire brindle dog or something of the like. I have seen a few Chocolate Labs with tan points, and even so it was *very* hard to see, you almost have to see the sun reflect off of it. My two girls are both examples of "unaccepted" pigment that is naturally produced. They are yellows with a chocolate dog's pigment -- instead of a black nose and black skin, it is chocolate/liver. Also, Luka has a chocolate patch on her front right leg, which is a mismark.

TORNER RETRIEVERS, welcome to Pet Talk! Your Labs are beautiful! Labs are one of my two favorite breeds (my other being the Great Dane) and I own two myself. They are both in my signature. Nova (light yellow) is 10 months old and Luka (dark yellow) is almost 2 years old. Nova is from a back yard breeder. I regret buying from them but don't regret my girl. She is the best thing that has happened to me, and she is just so smart and so well-mannered. She does have hip dysplasia, though, as well as allergies. We adopted Luka in November from the humane society. They are both from hunting lines so of course don't fit the breed standard. I also have a White German Shepherd/Pit Bull mix named Mandy, and she is 8 years old.

[Suki Wingy]

I like your dog! Nice Stock That is why I prefer show bred over field bred

[.sarah]

I like your dog! Nice Stock That is why I prefer show bred over field bred

Why? ... Because of the way they look? Sorry I don't understand

[Suki Wingy]

I just like the chunky and stockyness in labs, that is what I grew up seeing, so I guess that is why I like them more. I never liked the personality ofthe labs too much, but I like the look of the stocky ones better.

[.sarah]

I just like the chunky and stockyness in labs, that is what I grew up seeing, so I guess that is why I like them more. I never liked the personality ofthe labs too much, but I like the look of the stocky ones better.

Ah, okay. I'm the opposite. In addition to personality and drive, I prefer the look of field Labs. To each his own.

[TORNER RETRIEVERS]

TORNER RETRIEVERS, welcome to Pet Talk! Your Labs are beautiful! Labs are one of my two favorite breeds (my other being the Great Dane) and I own two myself. They are both in my signature. Nova (light yellow) is 10 months old and Luka (dark yellow) is almost 2 years old. Nova is from a back yard breeder. I regret buying from them but don't regret my girl. She is the best thing that has happened to me, and she is just so smart and so well-mannered. She does have hip dysplasia, though, as well as allergies. We adopted Luka in November from the humane society. They are both from hunting lines so of course don't fit the breed standard. I also have a White German Shepherd/Pit Bull mix named Mandy, and she is 8 years old.

THANKS FOR THE WELCOMING SARAH. I'M GLAD YOU LIKED MY DOGS. I ALSO HAVE A GIRL BOUGHT FROM A BACKYARD BREEDER. SHE IS THE FIRST LAB I PURCHASED AND SHE MADE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH THE BREED. NOW I LOVE SHOWING AND BREEDING BETTER DOGS.

BY THE WAY, YOUR GIRLS ARE LOVELY.

[.sarah]

THANKS FOR THE WELCOMING SARAH. I'M GLAD YOU LIKED MY DOGS. I ALSO HAVE A GIRL BOUGHT FROM A BACKYARD BREEDER. SHE IS THE FIRST LAB I PURCHASED AND SHE MADE ME FALL IN LOVE WITH THE BREED. NOW I LOVE SHOWING AND BREEDING BETTER DOGS.

BY THE WAY, YOUR GIRLS ARE LOVELY.

Thank you Nova has definetly made me fall in love with the breed. I used to want to breed dogs, but I'm more into rescuing now. You just can't beat the feeling of saving a life!

[IRescue452]

I think they can be purebred, as well as black and tan labs and other mismarks. As long as they are purebred and fit the standard I still won't understand not accepting them. And you won't understand me. I am into working dogs. Working dogs were once bred purely for type, concern for colour wasn't important. Colour alone doesn't affect the dog.
Actually I wanted to know information about your breeding operation. (put any breeder in front of me and the first thing I want to know is everything about them) Pictures of some dogs tells me nothing about a breeder. You could be the best breeder in the world or the worst for all I know from pictures. I wish you'd have posted some stacked photos of your dogs. They look good but a bit overweight for the type. The last photo looks like there is something wrong with the dog's back legs, but its probably the way it is standing.

[TORNER RETRIEVERS]

Actually I wanted to know information about your breeding operation. (put any breeder in front of me and the first thing I want to know is everything about them) Pictures of some dogs tells me nothing about a breeder. You could be the best breeder in the world or the worst for all I know from pictures. I wish you'd have posted some stacked photos of your dogs. They look good but a bit overweight for the type. The last photo looks like there is something wrong with the dog's back legs, but its probably the way it is standing.

I'm not trying to make you believe i'm the best breeder in the world, but that i'm good at what i do and know what i'm talking about because i love doing it and live for ti.

ACTUALLY THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OVERWEIGHT AND ROBUST/SOLID CONSTITUTION.

about the type..the american blood lines (show quality) are just like the ones shown in my pictures. here's a link to some of america's most famous and reputable breeders. take a look and see what i'm talking about.

www.dickendall.com
http://www.tabathalabs.com/pagestuds.htm
http://www.windfalllabs.com/boys.htm
http://members.tripod.com/~beulahland/tom.htm
http://www.belquest.com/coffee.html
http://www.minefalls.com/Windfalls%20Pipeline.htm

about the last photo, the hind legs look different because of the way the dog is standing. this dog is free of hip and elbow dysplasia "HD A" (which means Excelent), certified by the mexican kennel club. he is mex/am/intnl/latam/great mex ch/BISS