The Sheltie was 8 1/2 weeks old when it was taken away from its mom. I don't know how many other pups were in his litter, but he was one of at least three - I think more, but don't remember. Attempts have been made his whole life to socialize him, but at the obedience classes, and every other time he was with lots of dogs, or any other dogs, actually, he would cower behind his owner, not interacting with the other dogs at all.

He is almost 4, I think, maybe 5. When he first came to live with his owners, they had another Sheltie, who was quite old (14), nearly deaf, and didn't really play ever, anyway. He will chase and torment the cat, which the Sheltie regards as playing, but the cat does not - he puts up with it for a minute or so, then just leaps up where the dog can't "get" him. But the Sheltie is much loved, despite his neurosis, and has a whole office of people who love him and pet him. But the poodle soooo wants to play! Poor poodle just doesn't understand why the Sheltie doesn't get it!