http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...threadid=45833

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=47706

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...threadid=73178

http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthread.php?t=73240

Just a few of the many threads where this has been hashed over.