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    Quote Originally Posted by Allecto
    You see, in Cali, getting a 'celebrity' to play the race card for you will usually get you out of a whole lot of trouble. Our higher-ups would rather make monstrous, humiliating blunders than risk looking un-pc for a moment.
    Ah, I see Well, I'm glad that they didn't win this time, although I am not entirely sure where I stand on the death penalty...

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    Well i heard this morning in the radio that yes there was a black juror but Tookie didnt think he looked black so he wasn't buying, LOL
    Im Armenian and you would never guess it by just looking at me.
    And again i dont understand why race is an issue when u are a juror, its about evidence not what color or Nationality you are. Shouldnt we all believe in the same right or wrong??

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    Had it been a white person, with an all black jury, it would not have been an issue of race. He was guilty, race has nothing to do with it.

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    Listen to the story about who he dedicated one of his books to..
    Some idiot who was going to trial, and on the day of the hearing his brother breaks into court with a machine gun to try and free him.

    A lawyer is paralyzed from a cop bullet during the shoot out and the judge in the trial is killed with a blast from a shot gun taped to his head. The brother was killed later on.

    The original idiot was later killed in San Quentin during one of the worst days of prison violence in their history.....3 guards and three inmates died that day.

    If you are that repentant, why acknowledge another moron in a book you 'wrote' to end violence????
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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita02
    And again i dont understand why race is an issue when u are a juror, its about evidence not what color or Nationality you are. Shouldnt we all believe in the same right or wrong??
    Actually, race does matter in a jury. I work for a litigation consulting company with a bunch of Ph.D.s who study this kind of stuff, juries specifically. We do mock trials all over the country on actual cases.

    Theoretically, if there were more black people on the jury, they more than likely would have sided with "Tookie." You would be surprised at how people of certain races will dismiss evidence and come up with the most bogus excuses. Race, education, occupation, age, etc. all play a roll. Tookie should have had his lawyer pick a better jury with more black people on it.

    I'm not really sure I know where I stand on capital punishment, but I do know that his victims didn't get a second chance, so why should he. I'm just glad I wasn't the one who was a) affected by his crime or b) the one who ultimately had to decide his fate.




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    Well if more black people on his jury would of set him free, what does that say? that is ridiculous so since u are the same color you dismiss a murderer? I guess that is what racism is though, and you cant exactly tell wether someone is or not.

    How does anyone get a fair trial then if people are just siding with the same race they are. white or black.
    All i was saying was evidence is evidence, no matter what color u are, and i guess that is why OJ is free huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by senorita02
    All i was saying was evidence is evidence, no matter what color u are, and i guess that is why OJ is free huh?
    I hear you. Believe me. It's sad to watch our deliberations and the silly reasons people use to discount hard facts. I didn't say it was right, but it happens.

    As for OJ, yes, his lawyers chose a damned good jury. One of the consultants I work for worked with his lawyers.




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    In OJ's case his attorneys turned it into a race thing and used the black people on his jury like pawns. Other factors are counted in as well, like education level, etc.

    I hope they someday execute David Westerfield, I don't know if anybody remembers his trial but he kidnapped, raped and killed a 7 year old girl. He is on death row in san quentin. Being white thankfully did not help him get out of his punishment.
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    My mom had made a comment that Scott Peterson just got moved up, too.




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