What the heck is a miniature Australion Lapradoodle???

[finn's mom]

They will NEVER EVER be a breed, a breed is what you get when you breed 2 of the same dogs to get that dog. Well with those dogs you have to breed a lab & a poodle to get a labradoodle, you CAN NOT breed a labradoodle with a labradoodle and get labradoodle puppies. They have to half & half.

I disagree with the whole designer dog thing, too...but, isn't this how almost all breeds started out? Breeding two different types of dogs for enough years to eventually consistently and predictably get the same puppies with the desired characteristics? It makes sense that if they keep breeding these dogs, that eventually you would be able to breed a labradoodle to a labradoodle and get labradoodles. I just hate the stupid names they make up for them. It's dumbing it down for people so that they know what they're getting. Ugh. I mean, if they're really trying to come up with a new, long lasting breed with future hopes that it will be recognized, why not just come up with a completely new name? Anyway...it's a cycle that will always always be moving...unfortunately.

[Flatcoatluver]

I disagree with the whole designer dog thing, too...but, isn't this how almost all breeds started out? Breeding two different types of dogs for enough years to eventually consistently and predictably get the same puppies with the desired characteristics? It makes sense that if they keep breeding these dogs, that eventually you would be able to breed a labradoodle to a labradoodle and get labradoodles. I just hate the stupid names they make up for them. It's dumbing it down for people so that they know what they're getting. Ugh. I mean, if they're really trying to come up with a new, long lasting breed with future hopes that it will be recognized, why not just come up with a completely new name? Anyway...it's a cycle that will always always be moving...unfortunately.

yeah but do we really need more dogs in our population with thousands of healthy dogs are dying every year??

[finn's mom]

yeah but do we really need more dogs in our population with thousands of healthy dogs are dying every year??

you're seriously asking me that? i didn't say at any point that i agreed with it at all. i was just making a comment based on this comment "a breed is what you get when you breed 2 of the same dogs to get that dog"...because that, as far as i know, isn't the way it happens.

[Jessika]

yeah but do we really need more dogs in our population with thousands of healthy dogs are dying every year??

Well the same arguement could be used against breeding the current breeds, you know??

I don't agree with designer breeds but at the same time that IS how our current breeds all came to be in most cases. Now more "established" designer breeds SUCH AS the Labradoodle have a better chance of becoming a "real" breed but other ones like the Puggle and whatnot are crosses that are only made to feed the public for a certain time span. Once the public is bored with Puggles those "breeders" will move on to a new "designer breed". It's sick but true.

[IRescue452]

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"yeah but do we really need more dogs in our population with thousands of healthy dogs are dying every year??"

"I don't know but it just sickens me thinking there is tons of mixed breed dogs (beutiful by the way) that are sitting in a shelter watching their life pass them by."

Well there are 2,344 golden retrievers (to pick a breed) on petfinder right now, and many purebred puppy litters. So when a "reputable breeder" (not to mention any names) sells puppies, don't they also lessen the chance for shelter puppies to be adopted? I mean they cancelled out a family that was looking for a golden puppy. If you read my siggie I hope you agree that all breeders, even show breeders, should stop unless they are willing to do something with the shelter dogs that lost their chance because of them.

[finn's mom]

and, just a question...is it laPradoodle? Or laBradoodle? I mean, it makes more sense that it's the second one, but, heck, the whole thing doesn't make sense, so, I wasn't sure. I've seen it both ways, but, I'm assuming one way is right...anyone know for sure? I thought it was labradoodle...

[Allecto]

I've always seen it as labradoodle, with a b.

[Jessika]

its LaBradoodle, because its a mix between a Labrador and a Poodle.

And also she spelled Australian wrong in the subject too so I would chalk it up to typos

[Flatcoatluver]

jessika you should know by now i can't spell to save my life!

[lv4dogs]

and, just a question...is it laPradoodle? Or laBradoodle? I mean, it makes more sense that it's the second one, but, heck, the whole thing doesn't make sense, so, I wasn't sure. I've seen it both ways, but, I'm assuming one way is right...anyone know for sure? I thought it was labradoodle...

It probably was just a typo. But as you said I too have seen it spelled both ways. Since it's not really a breed I guess you can spell it however you want to. There is no right way to spell a mixed breed other than, mixed, mutt, heinz 57, alloyed, amalgamated, assimilated, assorted, blended, brewed, composite, compound, conglomerate, crossbred, crossed, different, disordered, diverse, diversified, embodied, fused, heterogeneous, hybrid, hybridized, incorporated, infused, interbred, interdenominational, joint, kneaded, married, merged, mingled, miscellaneous, mongrel, motley, multifarious, tied, transfused, united, varied, woven, etc... lol

[Flatcoatluver]

Just a question why do people call mix breeed heintz 57 never herad that expression b4!

[Vela]

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So when a "reputable breeder" (not to mention any names) sells puppies, don't they also lessen the chance for shelter puppies to be adopted? I mean they cancelled out a family that was looking for a golden puppy. If you read my siggie I hope you agree that all breeders, even show breeders, should stop unless they are willing to do something with the shelter dogs that lost their chance because of them.

No way. I want responsible breeder breeding to BETTER the breeds and breed out the genetic deformities now popping up in them and doing all of the required testing so that I can buy a healthy dog. I have nothing at all against shelter dogs, but if I specifically want a Boxer, I want to go to a boxer breeder who does all the appropriate things so I stand a better chance of getting a healthy dog. Responsible breeders should NOT be penalized because someone else was stupid and didn't fix their pets or is a BYB. The only way to ever better the breeds and breed out genetic abnormalities to have those FEW experienced breeders willing to shell out for the showing and testing of their breeding stock to produce quality animals. If you want to stop the overpopulation of dogs, try going to the source of the problem, which is NOT responsible breeders. You would actually get farther by banning all pet store from selling puppies, kittens etc. Then the puppy mills wouldn't have so much business and all of those sick dogs from those puppy mills with inherited genetic and temperament issues wouldn't end up in the shelter.

I hate the fact that so many wonderful dogs are put down every day, but that is not a responsible breeder's fault. I have had shelter dogs, and I may again, but I also want to be able to purchase a dog of whichever breed I choose from a responsible breeder who can provide me with copies of their health testing on paper so I can see it and who show their dogs to make sure their stock is of the best quality. There is nothing wrong with that.

[K9soul]

The people who feel responsible breeders need to stop breeding at all to clean up the messes of the irresponsible, puppymills, and so on are promoting the opposite of what they seem to want. That would only SUPPORT puppymills and BYB and the like, I don't understand how people can't see that? It's not realistic to think that if all reputable breeders were stopped, suddenly it'd solve the homeless/shelter dog problem. That's just not how it would be. In effect it would be like pit bull banning which punishes the responsible people and forces the bad owners/fighters to go to the next breed or go underground. You're wanting to punish and penalize the few people who are doing things the RIGHT way. Sure someone MAY go to a shelter instead of to a breeder, but they just as likely may go to their neighbor who is now breeding puppies because demand is higher for that certain type since it's hit and miss at the shelter.

Reputable breeders' dogs rarely end up in shelters because any true responsible breeder will always take their dog back if things don't work out. Outlaw all breeding, and quicker than you realize dogs will be phased out (and of course you know there'd be an underground trade for it then as well.) If all reputable breeders stopped the way you say they should, pet stores, puppymills, and BYB would become much more profitable and I'm willing to bet you there'd be no decrease in numbers at the shelters.

People who go to a reputable breeder are not bad people and there is nothing wrong if they want to go that route. People who ARE reputable breeders, truly responsble, are NOT to blame for dogs dying in shelters. I say efforts should be aimed at stopping puppymills, backyard breeding, designer mutt breeding and irresponsible breeding. Not focused on stopping the one group who are doing things correctly and responsibly.

[lv4dogs]

I disagree with the whole designer dog thing, too...but, isn't this how almost all breeds started out? Breeding two different types of dogs for enough years to eventually consistently and predictably get the same puppies with the desired characteristics? It makes sense that if they keep breeding these dogs, that eventually you would be able to breed a labradoodle to a labradoodle and get labradoodles. I just hate the stupid names they make up for them. It's dumbing it down for people so that they know what they're getting. Ugh. I mean, if they're really trying to come up with a new, long lasting breed with future hopes that it will be recognized, why not just come up with a completely new name? Anyway...it's a cycle that will always always be moving...unfortunately.

Thats what I thought too, but at the local shelter I volunteer at they often have little conferences about different subjects. I went to one a couple months ago where they had vets, trainers & breeders speak about designer breeds. I can't remember all the technical things that explained why but apparently they ALL said that a labradoodle can NEVER be breed, not even after thousands & thousands of years. I'll have to ask my trainer next Sat, as he was one of the speakers... see if he knows/remembers exactly why.

[finn's mom]

Thats what I thought too, but at the local shelter I volunteer at they often have little conferences about different subjects. I went to one a couple months ago where they had vets, trainers & breeders speak about designer breeds. I can't remember all the technical things that explained why but apparently they ALL said that a labradoodle can NEVER be breed, not even after thousands & thousands of years. I'll have to ask my trainer next Sat, as he was one of the speakers... see if he knows/remembers exactly why.

I wonder what makes a labradoodle any different from any other "breed." So, they're saying that in order to make labradoodles, you have to have a lab and a poodle? That all of the puppies being bred from those two breeds are incapable of breeding? Hmm...I'd be interested in hearing more about that, definitely.