They're docked at about 2 days old usually...Originally Posted by finn's mom
They're docked at about 2 days old usually...Originally Posted by finn's mom
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WOW! I knew it was young, but, I had no idea it was that early. Dang, I guess that makes it an easy decision for me...no dobies in my future. Poo. I guess if I met a breeder that would make an exception for me...hmmm...oh, well...We'll see if and when it comes up.Originally Posted by Orangutango
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
Dobes aren't the only breed that have tails docked however. Aussies, Rotts, many other breeds have tails docked as newborns. But this isn't about docking so I won't go on heheOriginally Posted by finn's mom
Yeah, I know...just dobermans are the only breed on my wish list that do.Originally Posted by Jessika
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The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
I am against.
Why would you not get one just because it has a docked tail? It is because you're against it and don't want to support it?Originally Posted by finn's mom
A responsible breeder can't hold back a puppy just for one person because at that age they can't tell anything about who will be a show or pet puppy. So all the tails must be docked.
If you wanted a Dobe without a docked tail you will need to look for a breeder overseas. If it is because you aren't supporting docking, why don't you just get a rescue? That way you know your money is for a good cause and you're saving a life![]()
I used to be against it, but... i have changed my tune on it, i am not saying i am totally for it, but i wouldnt think any less of a person becuase they had their dogs ears cropped, if it were the standard of the breed, and done at the proper time, (when they are very young).
My girl (Presa Canario) has her ears cropped and my boy (Rottweiler) has his tail docked.
However... i didnt choose this, the breeders were not letting their pups go to their homes until they were docked/cropped. And i prefer the look on them anyway.
I would just rather have an all natural dog, nothing against anything, really. but, if I had a choice, which I do...I would prefer a dog with natural ears and a natural tail.Originally Posted by .sarah
And, as for rescue, I'm not sure what I'll be doing when it comes time for me to get another dog. It just depends on who I click with.
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
Ah, I see. Well, I know ear cropping is outlawed in other countries and I believe docking is as well, although I'm not positive. If you're willing to have a pup shipped, then that's what you'll have to do to get a natural dogOriginally Posted by finn's mom
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Originally Posted by .sarah
Yeah, I knew it could be that complicated. Like I said, though, I have no idea...dobermans are just one of the handful of breeds I've always admired, and, have tossed the idea around...but, again, labs weren't even a consideration for me before, but, I met Finn and fell hard. So, you never know!
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
I'm against both cropping and docking, but it wouldn't affect my decision to rescue one of these breeds. I do love natural dobies though. They're stunning!!
After seeing certain surgeries at the vet hospital during my time there, I have really come to dislike some of the procedures. The puppies are so pitiful when they are brought in for tail docking. Since they're so young and the procedure is so quick, no anesthesia is used. They basically just clip the poor little tails off!We would call it "puppy torture" whenever someone brought puppies in for docking. Poor things! You could hear their screams all the way to the front of the hospital!
That's a sound you don't soon forget.
I really don't see the point in either ear cropping or tail docking (unless for a medical reason), but I know that's what's preferred in show dogs. For non-show dogs...what's the point?
**hugs**
Well, I think it does make some breeds look better, like the briard, but I wouldn't do it myself. Personally, if you must change the dog's appearence to suit your wants, I think you shouldn't have that breed. I've also heard of breeders making acceptions to cropping and occasionally docking. Docking is only done in a few countries, so you can find undocked puppies. I'm undecided on docking because some dogs do break their tails more often or break the skin and bleed. Cropping on the other hand doesn't do anything to help the dog.
"There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion."
Lord John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton
Yeah, that's basically my stand on it.Originally Posted by IRescue452
That's why dobermans might not be a breed I get in the future...
Yeah, my friends in Texas have a lab that busts his tail open all the time. Poor thing.I'm undecided on docking because some dogs do break their tails more often or break the skin and bleed.They've considered having their dog's tail docked because of it.
The idea that some lives matter less is the root of all that is wrong with the world. - Dr. Paul Farmer
whoops!! I posted for it when i am actually against it!! sorry! yeah no i am totally against it
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I dont have anything aginst cropping as long as its done right.
same for docking. but thats a different mater.![]()
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