Ear Cropping

**Tollers-n-Dobes** · 12-05-2005, 04:02 PM

I'm neither against or for ear cropping anymore. I prefer the appearance of all natural dogs (long tails, floppy ears) personally, so if/when I get another Dobe I definitely won't be cropping her (Not really much of a choice when it comes to docking though...)

**finn's mom** · 12-05-2005, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Orangutango

Dobe I definitely won't be cropping her (Not really much of a choice when it comes to docking though...)

Why is that? Do you know? I mean, the only reason I'm asking is because a doberman is one of the breeds I've wanted, and, might possibly look into when I'm ready and able to get another dog...how young are they when they dock them? I won't end up getting one at all if I can't choose a natural tail. That stinks!

**Tollers-n-Dobes** · 12-05-2005, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by finn's mom

Why is that? Do you know? I mean, the only reason I'm asking is because a doberman is one of the breeds I've wanted, and, might possibly look into when I'm ready and able to get another dog...how young are they when they dock them? I won't end up getting one at all if I can't choose a natural tail. That stinks!

They're docked at about 2 days old usually...

**finn's mom** · 12-05-2005, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Orangutango

They're docked at about 2 days old usually...

WOW! I knew it was young, but, I had no idea it was that early. Dang, I guess that makes it an easy decision for me...no dobies in my future. Poo. I guess if I met a breeder that would make an exception for me...hmmm...oh, well...We'll see if and when it comes up.

**Jessika** · 12-05-2005, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by finn's mom

WOW! I knew it was young, but, I had no idea it was that early. Dang, I guess that makes it an easy decision for me...no dobies in my future. Poo. I guess if I met a breeder that would make an exception for me...hmmm...oh, well...We'll see if and when it comes up.

Dobes aren't the only breed that have tails docked however. Aussies, Rotts, many other breeds have tails docked as newborns. But this isn't about docking so I won't go on hehe

**finn's mom** · 12-05-2005, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Jessika

Dobes aren't the only breed that have tails docked however. Aussies, Rotts, many other breeds have tails docked as newborns. But this isn't about docking so I won't go on hehe

Yeah, I know...just dobermans are the only breed on my wish list that do.

**jackie** · 12-05-2005, 04:18 PM

I am against.

**.sarah** · 12-05-2005, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by finn's mom

WOW! I knew it was young, but, I had no idea it was that early. Dang, I guess that makes it an easy decision for me...no dobies in my future. Poo. I guess if I met a breeder that would make an exception for me...hmmm...oh, well...We'll see if and when it comes up.

Why would you not get one just because it has a docked tail? It is because you're against it and don't want to support it?

A responsible breeder can't hold back a puppy just for one person because at that age they can't tell anything about who will be a show or pet puppy. So all the tails must be docked.

If you wanted a Dobe without a docked tail you will need to look for a breeder overseas. If it is because you aren't supporting docking, why don't you just get a rescue? That way you know your money is for a good cause and you're saving a life

**senorita02** · 12-05-2005, 04:28 PM

I used to be against it, but... i have changed my tune on it, i am not saying i am totally for it, but i wouldnt think any less of a person becuase they had their dogs ears cropped, if it were the standard of the breed, and done at the proper time, (when they are very young).
My girl (Presa Canario) has her ears cropped and my boy (Rottweiler) has his tail docked.
However... i didnt choose this, the breeders were not letting their pups go to their homes until they were docked/cropped. And i prefer the look on them anyway.

**finn's mom** · 12-05-2005, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by .sarah

Why would you not get one just because it has a docked tail? It is because you're against it and don't want to support it?

I would just rather have an all natural dog, nothing against anything, really. but, if I had a choice, which I do...I would prefer a dog with natural ears and a natural tail.

And, as for rescue, I'm not sure what I'll be doing when it comes time for me to get another dog. It just depends on who I click with.

**.sarah** · 12-05-2005, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by finn's mom

I would just rather have an all natural dog, nothing against anything, really. but, if I had a choice, which I do...I would prefer a dog with natural ears and a natural tail.

And, as for rescue, I'm not sure what I'll be doing when it comes time for me to get another dog. It just depends on who I click with.

Ah, I see. Well, I know ear cropping is outlawed in other countries and I believe docking is as well, although I'm not positive. If you're willing to have a pup shipped, then that's what you'll have to do to get a natural dog

**IRescue452** · 12-05-2005, 05:58 PM

Well, I think it does make some breeds look better, like the briard, but I wouldn't do it myself. Personally, if you must change the dog's appearence to suit your wants, I think you shouldn't have that breed. I've also heard of breeders making acceptions to cropping and occasionally docking. Docking is only done in a few countries, so you can find undocked puppies. I'm undecided on docking because some dogs do break their tails more often or break the skin and bleed. Cropping on the other hand doesn't do anything to help the dog.

**Vette** · 12-08-2005, 06:38 AM

I dont have anything aginst cropping as long as its done right.
same for docking. but thats a different mater.

**lv4dogs** · 12-09-2005, 11:37 AM

I'm mostly against it.

I personally would not have it done to any of my pets, unless it needed to be done due to a medical problem. I also don't mind if others have to have it done as long as it will help the dogs health.

I am for it though ONLY if the breed standard says that it HAS to be done AND ONLY if you are showing that dog. BUT I do wish that the AKC & other organizations would change it so that you could show natural ears.

I was wondering was there ever a reason to crop ears? Like some breeds of dogs have their tails docked because they heard, it prevents them from getting it stepped on, or hunting dogs where it prevents damage that could occur while running through overgrowth and the like. But I've never heard of a logical (other than looks) reason to crop ears.