Well, it is not my top fav group but I love pointers (english) and I'm patiently waiting for the AKC to accept Ireish red and whites, you can see them in the field much better! I know because Niņo is white and we can spot him from acroos the dog park, but the brown and red ones are really hard to see running. I also like the look of cockers but I havn't ever really been around them or anything so I don't really know what they are like.