Jail or War?

**Lady's Human** · 11-30-2005, 11:05 PM

ES, there's a huge difference, but it's impossible to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.

**Cataholic** · 12-01-2005, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lady's Human

ES, there's a huge difference, but it's impossible to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.

Good lord. That is a lovely, patronizing statment. ES- I guess you are just too dumb to understand some things...silly woman.

**Lady's Human** · 12-01-2005, 10:32 PM

Cataholic, that was not patronizing, just fact.

**Cataholic** · 12-01-2005, 10:42 PM

Oh, I see. Pardon me for not bowing down, humbly, my back is a bit sore this evening.

I somehow missed the concept that one must experience firsthand an event before 'understanding' it. Personally, I have experienced firsthand neither war nor jail, but, am quite comfortable with my opinion that I want neither for myself.

I imagine the list might be near endless of the events (wo)man has not experienced firsthand, yet has knowledge of. To hear anyone make the comment you did up several posts above IS patronizing. Your next post, declaring it 'fact' is nearly dismissive. I would imagine ES has the ability to comprehend many concepts she hasn't experienced firsthand...really, she is quite bright. (Remember, it was YOU that didn't want mind numbed soldiers.... ).

**Lady's Human** · 12-01-2005, 10:48 PM

To understand the broad generalities of a concept one can read about it. To truly UNDERSTAND something as complex as the interaction between soldiers it has to be experienced. I'm not being condescending, I'm just stating a fact.

There are things in the military that I could never have understood, even though I have read a lot of history, many bios, etc. There are things that HAVE to be experienced.

**Karen** · 12-01-2005, 10:57 PM

I don't think he implied at all that someone wouldn't understand just because of their gender. He knows better.

I understand that, as someone who has never been a soldier, there are some things about it I don't understand, not because of any lack of intellectual capacity, but because of lack of experience. Just as there are things about being a lawyer that I am sure I do not understand, and there are things about being a Mass Art student you wouldn't understand.

**Lady's Human** · 12-01-2005, 11:01 PM

BTW, "Silly woman" Has not one damned thing to do with it. I've served with male soldiers who i'd never allow near me in a tight spot, and I've served with women who could out perform many male soldiers.

**Cataholic** · 12-01-2005, 11:39 PM

Good grief. There are many things, even COMPLEX matters, that I do understand, even without experiencing them. Maybe you two are different, and do need the experience, I can't say. But, to lump everyone together and say "you can't understand cause you haven't been there", or, "I am just stating a fact" when it isn't a fact, it is your opinion, is inane.

Your statement:

ES, there's a huge difference, but it's impossible to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.

was patronizing. Hey, its a fact! I said so. I can't explain it to you. You just wouldn't understand. It is a lawyer thing. You didn't go to law school.