Anna_66 - Angus sounds like he was a real good dog. I'm sure there are some Rotts out there that I would click with, but as a whole the breed just isn't for me. You know? I don't hate them, but I don't love them either. But each dog is different. I despise Terriers but there have been a few that I have loved. There have been some Rotts I've despised, some I loved, but most wanted nothing to do with me. I have only met a few that weren't unruly, and I can tell you right now that 4 of the unruly ones I have met have wonderful owners who are patient and kind and gentle, but give a firm hand. They go to obedience classes, but they just won't listen

I'm rambling lol. Like I said, the breed just isn't for me I have nothing against them at all.