Hooch And Eli

[bckrazy]

AllAmericanPup, that was an awesome post! I REALLY hope the OP got the idea. Just because a dog is rare, does not mean that it should be bred without being exhibited in shows and activities, health/temperament tested, and evaluated by a professional. Actually, because a breed is rare that makes it MORE important to get your breeding dogs tested and titled, because not doing so will have a majorly BAD effect on the entire breed, having a small gene pool. Please get Hooch evaluated by a vet, Dogue's could easily be dysplasic and have other health problems do to their size and flat faces. Also, consider at least getting him evaluated by a professional Dogue breeder/exhibitor and/or by a show judge BEFORE even thinking of breeding him. You should breed him only to impove his breed, and although he might be a handsome dog he could also be poor health/show quality.

Also, there is a Dogue in my county shelter right now and I've seen several there at a time... along with Dogue mixes. They're steadily becoming popular to cross-breed with fighting dogs there was also several ads in my newspaper, almost definitely placed by crappy BYB's, advertising Dogues.

[Flatcoatluver]

they rescued those dogs, the shelter might have had them already sceduled,
thanks allamericanpup for those great post!!!

[areias]

they rescued those dogs, the shelter might have had them already sceduled,
thanks allamericanpup for those great post!!!

Exactly. That dosen't make sense, I don't think I've ever ever seen a shelter that dosen't spay the dog before you bring it home. Especially, with filling out an adoption application, they would know you have an unneutered male at home....

[AllAmericanPUP]

the shelter here does not spay/neuter
they give you a $15 off coupon for spay/neuter but then it's up to you to get it done they dont even check up on the dogs to make sure they were fixed

[Flatcoatluver]

the shelter here does not spay/neuter
they give you a $15 off coupon for spay/neuter but then it's up to you to get it done they dont even check up on the dogs to make sure they were fixed

omg!!! That shelter is terrible!!! so that means then you don't really even neuter and spay!!!! you can just breed and start that painful cycle all over again!!!

[CagneyDog]

Something is fishy about this whole story

I don't think you should breed. You have absolutely NO reason to breed Hooch.

[Karen]

Every shelter is different, sadly, on their spay/neuter policy. Lots around this area make you sign an agreement to get it done, but how are they supposed to know whether or not you do? It is up to each person individually to take the responsibility.

[bark_some]

Eli's doing awesome after surgery, it has been a HECK OF A TIME trying to keep her out of the water, sahe almost got in! And I am having to keep her inside and put her on a leash when I take her outside until her scar heals. And they vet took from 9:30 am to 4:30 pm to spay her. And no, she wasn't pregnant, because she wasn't in season.

I know Hooch is an awesome example of the DDB because of his great standard for the breed, if you check the standard, you'll see.
He has had ALL the tests for the DDB when he was a pup, and he gets the tests *just in case* every 2 years.
He hasn't won any shows, but he has a great standard

[bark_some]

You'll see the pictures of the dogs as soon as I download them.

[CagneyDog]

I know Hooch is an awesome example of the DDB because of his great standard for the breed, if you check the standard, you'll see. He hasn't won any shows, but he has a great standard

Reading the standards online and comparing is hardly good enough. What are you thinking

[Flatcoatluver]

do you show hooch?

[AllAmericanPUP]

Eli's doing awesome after surgery, it has been a HECK OF A TIME trying to keep her out of the water, sahe almost got in! And I am having to keep her inside and put her on a leash when I take her outside until her scar heals. And they vet took from 9:30 am to 4:30 pm to spay her. And no, she wasn't pregnant, because she wasn't in season.

I know Hooch is an awesome example of the DDB because of his great standard for the breed, if you check the standard, you'll see.
He has had ALL the tests for the DDB when he was a pup, and he gets the tests *just in case* every 2 years.
He hasn't won any shows, but he has a great standard

and what exact tests are those? what are his OFA or pennhip scores? cerf? thyroid? patellas?

[bckrazy]

I don't see how you could judge him without ever showing Dogues, by simply looking at a VERY general on-line breed standard. Any purebred dog SHOULD fall within the standard... my little rescue BC falls into his standard, and he's FAR from being breedable. He's adorable but sadly he could not win any shows, ever.

The fact is that not just dogs who fit into their standard should be bred, the absolute BEST dogs who are PICTURE PERFECT examples of their breed should be bred, and only those dogs. That is the whole reason there ARE shows. If the only guidelines for breeding were "must conform to standard somewhat." then why even show dogs?? The entire reason for conformation showing is to prove breedability and soundness of the dog... your dog might look like a great example to you, but to a judge that's been judging Dogue's for decades he might be way off of breedable. That is why, even in a gorgeous purebred litter like Kara's, there are mostly "pet quality" puppies and usually at most one or two "show/breeding quality" puppies. Just being a purebred does NOT make him worthy of passing on his genes, as adorable as he is. Please do look into showing, don't just judge him on your own, and consider only studding him out to tested, show quality, sound females with experienced owners.

[bark_some]

I used to love this board But now I find it hard to understand people If you guys are just going to go on and on about what you THINK but isn't the truth, go on ahead. I don't care. See yah later PT.