Yay for Kansas!

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[QUOTE=Edwina's Secretary]
This country was founded on...among other principles....separation of church and state.[QUOTE]
Actually, this country was founded on freedom of religon. When the Pilgrams were booted out of England because of their faith, they came here. The big debate over separation of church and state didn't happen until the Democrats and Republicans landed.

Belief in an intelligent design is not a religon unless you worship it.
I believe in air but that doesn't make it a religon.
It's a person's choice whether they worship anything or not. And no one will be telling anyone else to worship what or who ever the intelligent designer is.

[Lady's Human]

The teaching of intelligent design would not be a violation of the First amendment (BTW, ES, the Constitution was the second attempt at a unifying set of laws, the Articles of Confederation came first) as the first amendment states:

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

respecting an establishment of religion, ie no more Church of England. The idea of separation of church and state actually came from a letter written by Jefferson well after the writing of the Constitution.
Intelligent design as stated does not state that a particular deity created everything, just points out that that is one theory of how we got here.

[Edwina's Secretary]

It is so sad. I was just reading about Iraq where the religious police are assaulting young people on the street for walking...a man and a woman together. So now we have our own religious police. People who speak in a patronizing manner to others, is so typical of the Political Correctness crowd.

I am not free from YOUR religion if I must hear about YOUR religious belief in a PUBLIC school. Intelligent design = a supreme being = religion.

Denying this is a religious issue is disingenuous (lacking in candor).

How it is so many people have managed to pass through public education with the teaching of evolution and without intelligent design without turning them all into atheists?

Why the hangup on evolution? There are many areas with potential for different interpretations!

And why do you need to swear at subordinates?

[Lady's Human]

The first amendment speaks of freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Again, the amendment merely eliminates the possibility of a formal state religion, as in the Church of England. The teaching of intelligent design as a possibility does not teach a religion, it merely acknowledges the possibility. It also does not teach a particular religion.

Why the need to swear at subordinates? It gets their attention IMMEDIATELY, and in some cases that immediate call to attention may save their lives. We train with real ammo, real explosives, and inattention may cost lives, which to me is far, far more important than their feelings.

[JenBKR]

The first amendment speaks of freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.

EXACTLY!! Thank you - that is something that people can't seem to understand. That was something that my mom taught me at an early age.

In high school, when I learned about evolution (and the big bang theory) in science, I pretty much thought it was a bunch of bunk and didn't believe it. I just think that where we came from is a much bigger question, one that should be taught at home (or at least not in a science class, I still like the idea of both ideas being taught in philosophy ).

Actually, political correctness is NOT a Christian idea, at all. In fact, Christians are the ones being burned by political correctness. For example, we have to be so careful celebrating Christmas, and Pittsburgh went as far as to call it the "Sparkle Season" to not offend anyone. HELLO! Christmas celebrates the birth of Jesus - that is the meaning. If you don't like it, don't celebrate it.