Before I leave...

**CagneyDog** · 10-28-2005, 08:14 PM

Well i don't know. There are so many newbies that are suspicious around here I cant even keep track.

**Jessika** · 10-28-2005, 08:16 PM

If you're suspicious then why not PM them and ask them about it, or better yet contact Karen or Paul and let them know so they can deal with them??

**CagneyDog** · 10-28-2005, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jessika

If you're suspicious then why not PM them and ask them about it, or better yet contact Karen or Paul and let them know so they can deal with them??

Because I'm sure Karen is very aware about them.

If you were a troll would you admit to it through pm? Uh no?

**CagneyDog** · 10-28-2005, 08:21 PM

Anyways, I'm sorry for accusing you.

**Jessika** · 10-28-2005, 08:22 PM

Well my point being is that publically accusing someone never goes the way it should. Not only that, but its rude. And sometimes honest people are accused and that's not fair to them at all. So unless you know for sure it really is better to not bring stuff like this out in the open. Karen MAY be aware of it, she may not be, but she is the best person than any other board member to deal with that sort of thing, so just drop her a line if you're suspicious and let her know and she WILL deal with it.

Just because she's admin here doesn't mean she has eyes everywhere and knows EVERYTHING that's going on. They need a little help every now and then, too.

**CagneyDog** · 10-28-2005, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Jessika

Well my point being is that publically accusing someone never goes the way it should. Not only that, but its rude. And sometimes honest people are accused and that's not fair to them at all. So unless you know for sure it really is better to not bring stuff like this out in the open. Karen MAY be aware of it, she may not be, but she is the best person than any other board member to deal with that sort of thing, so just drop her a line if you're suspicious and let her know and she WILL deal with it.

Just because she's admin here doesn't mean she has eyes everywhere and knows EVERYTHING that's going on. They need a little help every now and then, too.

I'm aware, but these people have been signing up for weeks. So im pretty sure she knows about them.

**Jessika** · 10-28-2005, 08:24 PM

Never assume though. I'm sure you know how the saying goes 'when you assume it makes an ass out of u and me'. Assuming is what gets people in trouble. How can just sending her a PM letting her know hurt? If she already knows about the person oh darn, right? If not well you just let her know to keep an eye on someone. Admins are here to help.

**buckner** · 10-28-2005, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by lv4dogs

That is true in most cases, but in this case it was discussed privatly by a few. It was not brought out to the public until AFTER it was proved.
I agree with this for the most part, but I do have to say that I personally think that it should be brought out to the public ONLY AFTER it has been proved of course. That way we are preventing other failthful, honest members from being sucked into lies & deceptions.

I do agree that it is NOT right to point fingers if you have no proof!

I, like Kari, promised myself I would not post in this thread.. but I couldn't resist posting to such an ignorant comment.

My question for you, lv4dogs, is what proof do you have? Because you talked amongst yourselves (you and a few of the members, I'm assuming) and are comparing pictures, you've come to the proven conclusion that the person is lying? I'm sorry, but that's not PROOF. That's an opinion and an intuition. At PT, we can't prove if someone is lying or not because it's the internet. Simple as that. Unless you've found the same pictures on the net somewhere else and know the dogs and owners personally, there is no proof behind what you're saying. So please don't think that your conclusion from a bunch of PM's with other members is PROOF.

We recently went through a situation like this with another member and it turned ugly. Immediately jumping to conclusions is NOT the way to handle something like this. You may not like the person, but you can act civil towards them. You don't have to accuse them in a thread about you being suspicious about their animals. If you're THAT adament about it, PM the person in a civil way. Don't just post it and get other people to thinking the same thing. I was one of those people who accused people because my suspiciousness.. and on another board, I was leery of someone, until the truth DID come out and the fact is that I was WRONG. And I did hurt the person.

Just face it and realize that you'll never know the truth. Realize that the internet can be one big lie. Just have fun here, get to know people, post pictures and learn about other animals. We're a family here, if you have a problem with someone, please don't post it publicly.

Thank you, I shall now stay away from this thread. And I apologize if I offended any of you for any reason.

As for the real reason for this thread, I'm sorry you feel you have to leave and are no longer welcome. I hope you can look past this and remain here at PT. I hope you can remain friends with the people you've gotten to know so far. If not, I enjoyed your stories and pictures of your dogs.

EDIT - Someone brought it to my attention that I was directing my comment towards one certain person. Please know that "you" is a general you, and no one in particular. Thank you.