they are in seprate crates. also they will be nine weeks friday. the good news is there has been no accidents for a few days. i just make sure they go before bed. if they whine I let them out for a couple of minutes. their whines are diffrent when it's potty time than when their just bored. now if the one could just get the puppy pad down always pee's there sometimes doesn't get there for number two. thanks for all your help.