new puppy- help

[Flatcoatluver]

I hope you don't mind be asking but why wait till spring? I waited that long and t.j. ran away twise looking for girlfreinds, after we got him neutered he quit.

[dab_20]

because my mom cant afford to get all the puppy, puppy supplies, vet bills, mollis hair cut, molli spayed, food, AND a nueter all this fall. thats why we might not get this puppy. we have to seriously think about it first.

[jackie]

and i am not saying i support back yard breeders either

If you buy a dog from a BYB you are 100% supporting them.

[buttercup132]

maybe you shouldnt get a puppy right now then if you cant afford it, save up for a year for the nuter then go out puppy looking and hey maybe they willl bring in a small pup to your shelter or better yet go looking in other shelters near you those dogs will already be nutered

[dab_20]

thats what we are still deciding. today we will look at the puppy. and then my mom will look at about how much money we will have to spend. i will tell you today or tomorrow what she says!

[IRescue452]

BCKrazy, why must the dog be AKC registered. The AKC registers puppy mills. My cocker is registered and we picked her up at the puppy mill where she was bred. I'd never look for a quality dog just by the fact that they are akc registered. In fact, I'd like to find breeders that don't bother handing out registrations left and right as their puppies go to god knows who. Then the new owners are less likely to breed their pets because the breeder didn't give them a registration. As for cockers, having a 14 years old puppy mill cocker and seeing many many other cockers from both breeders and mills, I'd never buy one from a reputable breeder. I'm not saying I'd flat out support bybs but I'd find one in a shelter or rescue that I knew came from a puppy mill or byb. For cockers, the conformation breeders seem to produce the poor quality dogs in health and temperment, they need to get their heads screwed on right and stop breeding for conformation because they are the ones ruining the breed.

[bckrazy]

BCKrazy, why must the dog be AKC registered. The AKC registers puppy mills. My cocker is registered and we picked her up at the puppy mill where she was bred. I'd never look for a quality dog just by the fact that they are akc registered. In fact, I'd like to find breeders that don't bother handing out registrations left and right as their puppies go to god knows who. Then the new owners are less likely to breed their pets because the breeder didn't give them a registration. As for cockers, having a 14 years old puppy mill cocker and seeing many many other cockers from both breeders and mills, I'd never buy one from a reputable breeder. I'm not saying I'd flat out support bybs but I'd find one in a shelter or rescue that I knew came from a puppy mill or byb. For cockers, the conformation breeders seem to produce the poor quality dogs in health and temperment, they need to get their heads screwed on right and stop breeding for conformation because they are the ones ruining the breed.

Are you SERIOUS? Honestly, are you?.... Wow, thats awesome advice. Just awesome. Conformation people are RUINING the Cocker Spaniel breed, and Backyard Breeders are striving to improve it. It's the BYB's that are running health and temperament tests on all of their breeding dogs and attaining CGC's before breeding. BYB's also work their azzes off socializing and training dogs so that they can be handled with ease by judges. You are sooo right!!!

I'm not saying don't rescue. Did you notice in my post that I asked her to PLEASE rescue OR find a good breeder?! Buying from a reputable breeder is as good as rescuing, in the sense that buying from a good breeder is not contributing to the overpopulation ~ good breeders have a contract with the new owner stating they get the dog back if the owner wants to abandon it, they also have contracts requiring the spaying/neutering of pet quality puppies and are given a limited registration. As far as I'm concerned, any legitimate registry is absolutely fine, as long as the dog has documentation that it is a purebred dog... I can't even count the number of people I've met who bought "purebred" Yorkie or Poodle puppies from BYB's and later found out that their dog was far from purebred. Anyway, it's kind of hypocritical that your SN is "irescue" and you encourage everyone to go out and buy the first BYB puppy ad they see in the paper! No rescue person that I know would dream of saying that, except with complete sarcasm.

[IRescue452]

And dab_20, I'd buy this dog if I were looking at it. CHances are they are a person who bred their female once and are now finding out the hard way that they can't make a profit and that its also not easy to find homes for the dogs. But if I couldn't affford it currently, I'd wait.

[dab_20]

thanks irescue425. my mom decided she does have enough money for everything. when we went to go look at the puppy, my friend answered the door! apparently its my friends cocker. the dad was a handsome chocolate and white, and the mom was a cream color. the parents were both friendly and healthy. the puppy is soo cute! black and a white strip on the back that looks like lightning. looked very healthy. so we got him. he is a sweetie.

a couple questions. the new puppy 'humps' my female dog (whos in heat)
should i allow that??
and the puppy grabs ahold of mollis fur and pulls it. molli has yelped a couple times. should i just let them sort it out?? i cant tell if molli likes him or not.

[Kirbys Mom]

Nope she wont get pregnant males arent usaully ready to mate till aleast 6 months so watch out then.

[dab_20]

ok thanks everyone. i know 'humping' is a display of dominence, as molli has been doing that to my puppy. (now named sammy)

but another problem. today molli bites sammy when he gets close to her will she is eating or playing. i picked molli up and she bit me!! she barks at me when i play with sammy. (although i pay equal attention to molli)
and she wont listen to me anymore. i will yell her name but all she does is try and chase the new dog. its like since i got sammy the 'devil' is coming out of molli. will she stop being so mean when she gets used to sammy??