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    Thank you so much, Tubby & Peanut's (and Crackerjack's!)Mom for your kind and encouraging words. I just called the vet for the final blood results, we were waiting on the red/blood cell count. They're normal, so blood marrow is fine. Vet says Cleo's hyperthyroidism is only very mild and the kidneys are in the early stages too, albeit that kidneys don't show up until they are considerably impaired, still the blood/urine results show that it isn't so very far advanced at this stage. We're going to try some different kidney diets, Hills prescription k/d and maybe the Waltham one, along with her wet food, go easy on the protein etc. The main concern is the high BP and we'll get that checked again in a couple of weeks once she's been on the Norvask for a while, see if it's bringing down the BP

    And Smokey the Elder - I asked about dissolving the Norvask and refrigerating and it isn't recommended due to possibility of chemical breakdown. So I'll just have to keep chipping away - literally!

    Thanks everyone for your support and kindness. It is hard to accept the ageing process, even in ourselves never mind our babies. Lots of spoiling on the cards...
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    Hi!! Can you get a pill spiltter?? It sure would save your fingers and would give you a nice cut of the pill especially if the pill is scored. Sandra
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    Quote Originally Posted by kb2yjx
    Hi!! Can you get a pill spiltter?? It sure would save your fingers and would give you a nice cut of the pill especially if the pill is scored. Sandra
    Thanks for the suggestion. I do have one in a pill container, but the Norvask is so small and odd shaped, a rectangle with the corners cut off, that it won't hold in place in the tray -it shifts as you close the lid to cut it, ended up with irregular segments and lots of powder. Will check out a pharmacy see if I can get a better one. The things we do... Also thanks for the diet info. I'll be looking into these next week.
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    I found with weird shaped pills, to hold them in the spiltter AS LONG as possible even with a wire and SLOWLY push down on the splitter. Sometimes I get lucky and get a good split pill!! GOOD LUCK!!! Sandra
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    Sorry to hear about Cleo, it sounds like you're doing everything you can. I just posted about my 16 1/2 year old cat & his health problems. I'm struggling for acceptance, too. Like you, I just love him to pieces and can't imagine my life without him, he's been with me for so long.
    I hope your Cleo will continue to cooperate with taking her meds so she can be around for a long time. For years I had to give ChowChow a small pill daily. I bought a small morter & pestle and ground it up, & put the powder in a tasty bit of food (I usually used hamburger). It worked very well.

    ...and my sibes Star and Sherman

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    Thanks, Cyber-cat for your concern and suggestion. Cleo has never taken well to medication hidden in food. She simply won't eat it. At a dollar a dose I won't be wasting any! I find her quite easy to pill. And I've now bought some blades that are about 1.5 inches long, by 1/2inch deep, rectangular, with a thicker rounded bit at the top. You can hold it in both hands with fingertips and get a good clean cut. Into 1/8s is still challenging but it's a lot easier and more controlled. Get 6 reasonably even pieces and 2 lots of crumbs
    I try to even out the dosage across the week,if it's a smaller bit today or the crumbs, a bigger chip tomorrow etc.
    She's worth it.
    I got a great new mobile phone this week, have some lovely pics of both the TopCats, when I learn how to transfer them to my pc I can post them!

    Cleo goes back for BP check next Fri 28th, as much a measurement of my nursing skills as her BP!!!
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    Cleo had her BP checked on Friday and it's down to 160 - great news. Heart sounded fine and weight stable.

    We're trying out some different foods for her CRF, a tin of Hills k/d wet and a Walthams sachet of wet also vet gave me a free sample of Walthams dry which I liked the look of ingredients-wise better than the Hills. I didn't like the look of the Iams and I won't use their stuff anyway. It's hard to feed two cats different diets isn't it! I need eyes in the back of my head Colette keeps sneaking in for a nibble.

    It's got very hot here all of a sudden (spring/summertime) and as usual, they've temporarily gone off their food as they acclimatise.
    This is how it is here, we hardly have any between seasons like spring/autumn. It's been unseasonally hot though and humid. So they're on "hunger strike" and I'm trying not to fret as usual!

    It's quite funny when I prepare the tablet, I've started shutting the kitchen blind so no-one can see in, there I am scooping the powdery fragments off the board with the edge of the razor blade onto tiny pieces of Al foil that I've creased ready to tip into the open mouth at dose time. For all the world I look like an old hand getting ready to snort a line and if anyone sees in I'm afraid I might get raided!
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    Did you know that the distemper vaccine when used in a combination vaccine predisposed a pet to hyperthyroidism?
    On page 89 of The Nature of Animal Healing by Dr. Martin Goldstein, DVM he writes " With cats, a similarly suspicious link copped up between a new vaccine and increased incidences of hyperthyroidism. the correlation was especially compelling because hyperthyroidism isn't a virus or bacteira that might be spread any number of ways. It's a glandular malfunction... for this condition to appear suddenly at epidemic levels... was odd to say the least. If no contagious organism has been associated with this disease, what as the agent causing the epidemic? Logically you look for some new environmental factor that may be responsible. With hyperthyroidism , a logical factor was the new vaccine for feline distemper....when it first appeared , veterinarians simply added the distemper vaccine to others to make a combo.The result, I feel, is that the immune system in some cats broke down(.,... how would YOU feel getting vaccinated for chicken pox, polio, measles, mumps, whooping cough, smallpox and the flu all at the same time year after year?) today it remains part of a combo and cat continue to get hyperthyroidism more often than they once did. The pity is that the distemper vaccine could easily be modified to be administered on its own, and if given once, be effective for life without incurring much of a risk."

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    Thanks Furrykidsmother for your good wishes. Yes we are very happy and Cleo is enjoying her samples of special diets (so is Colette - can't keep her away! )

    And Solares that is very interesting what you said about vaccines. I have in fact stopped vaccinating my cats. There is a lot of info out about on vaccine-related conditions but I hadn't heard that about hyperthyroidism. Her condition is very mild at this stage, she is on the lowest of doses.

    Best wishes to everyone
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