Declawing: against or for?

[luvofallhorses]

I couldn't agree with you more, Michelle!

[luvofallhorses]

Also, I am against declawing 100% I think it is unneccessary and cruel Why take away their defense? They need their claws to protect themselves where they feel threatened. I really think jmho here that declawing should be against the law as well as ear cropping and tail docking.

[davidpizzica]

Kittycats-delight, that was very well said! I would NEVER torture a poor kitty to save a stupid piece of furniture.

[tvt]

TO ALL CLAWED CAT OWNERS WHO RESPONDED TO ME:
maybe the next time i should just leave the cats out in the rain with all their matted balls of hair and worms and empty bellies, or let the people keep kicking the cat in the ribs and who knows what else, since i seem to be so disrespectful for letting the cats share my nice clean home, minus their claws and not allowed to jump on counters. Is that being cruel too, not letting them jump on my countertops????

[tvt]

oh, and p.s.- i am keeping the cat and the furniture!!!

[G535]

I feel sick!

To think that "cat lovers" could do something like that to a poor cat for any reason.

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by tvt
TO ALL CLAWED CAT OWNERS WHO RESPONDED TO ME:
maybe the next time i should just leave the cats out in the rain with all their matted balls of hair and worms and empty bellies, or let the people keep kicking the cat in the ribs and who knows what else, since i seem to be so disrespectful for letting the cats share my nice clean home, minus their claws and not allowed to jump on counters. Is that being cruel too, not letting them jump on my countertops????

Loved inside cats with claws and owning nice furniture are NOT mutually exclusive. Rescue all the cats you want but don't rip off their claws for the privilege of having a home. It is possible to provide a good home for your rescue cats without resulting to surgery.

There is no advantage to your cat in being declawed....not one. I know, as I have an open challenge on my forum inviting pro-declawers to defend their decision to Declaw and all responses to date have been selfish owners based reasons NEVER a benefit for the cat. But the challenge remains open just in case.

Sadly it comes down to one basic fact. There are only two sorts of people who Declaw their cats.

One set who have little or no knowledge of the possible side effects and have been told by family, friends or their vet that declawing is a great idea. For these group I feel pity as they will never enjoy their cats stretching, playing and climbing properly.

The second set are lazy cat owners who know the facts and risks of Declawing but do it anyway as training their cat for five minutes a day is too much hassle, so they go for the easy option for themselves...sod the poor cat.

If you are in the first group, please post when you adopt your next cat as there is always a next cat, why not post for help in training your cat and avoid the cost and possible behavioural problems linked to Declawing. After all it only takes five minutes a day to post train a cat, no hassle at all. We can help you.

If you are in the second group, all I can do is hope from the bottom of my heart, that none of your cats start a declawing related behavioural problems of biting or weeing outside the litter tray.

After all...if scratching is a crime enough to result in permanent removal of claws and foot tissue, what would the punishment be for urine stained floorboards or a nasty bite ?

[PayItForward]

Originally posted by G535
To think that "cat lovers" could do something like that to a poor cat for any reason.

Cat Lovers don't..Cat Owners do

[tvt]

I have done everything that was advised for me (from the humane society, vet, other cat "owners" as I'm now titled) to stop the loveseat from being shredded, including putting catnip on the scratch board. Nothing worked, obviously, as she still does it. I am not getting this cat declawed, so don't no one else cringe that I might do something "inhumane".
Let me ask you all this--- why not talk to the vets in your areas about using a pain killer for the cats until the paws heal? I asked my vet when I had my previous cat done and she did prescribe something to use. You all make it sound like the cat isn't even put under anesthetic or anything, the vet just starts ripping claws out. It's not that way!

[luvofallhorses]

I cannot believe a vet suggested to have your cats declawed My vet would never suggest that..

[kittycats_delight]

My vet wouldn't declaw period !!!! Just like 80+% of vets. Would you like it if we took you say because you kept scratching and pulled out your nails and removed your fingers to the first joint?????

Maybe then you would get the idea?????

Oh maybe we can amputate a leg of yours and stick you on pain killers. And of course the amputation would not be for medical reason it would be just for the hell of it or because you walk to heavy.

You need to search online find some documented evidence of what these animals go through and the procedure. And if you vet suggested declawing it because he is in it for money not for the animals.

[luvofallhorses]

Again, well said Michelle

[tvt]

i never said my vet suggested declawing!!! I said i asked her how to stop the cat from clawing the furniture. i also said she let my cat have pain meds. get your stories straight, people, or else zip the lip.

[kittycats_delight]

Originally posted by tvt
I have done everything that was advised for me (from the humane society, vet, other cat "owners" as I'm now titled) to stop the loveseat from being shredded, including putting catnip on the scratch board.

Originally posted by tvt i never said my vet suggested declawing!!! I said i asked her how to stop the cat from clawing the furniture. i also said she let my cat have pain meds. get your stories straight, people, or else zip the lip

Now as far I can see you just completely contradicted yourself. I think you need to remember what you say before you open your mouth.

Also, I have noticed that your threads have all been complaining.

First because your son went away and you wanted to toss his dog out. And then complaining about your cat showing affection in licking you. Then you come out with being for declawing simply to save your precious furniture. You don't deserve to have a cat. Or another other animal for that matter. They are possessions to you. Something you can so "Oh look what I have" but the minute they behave not to your liking it toss it away or rip out it's claws. I think you need to step back and take a look at yourself as a pet owner. You think you are saving them cause you take them into your home but you subject them to misery of declawing and lord forbid if they do something remotely naughty and cat like. They must be good little furrballs and just sit and look pretty and entertain you.

I pity your poor animals. They are nothing more than objects.

[tvt]

Some people...
I was asking the vet how to stop the cat from tearing up my furniture, along with other advisors, and the destructive behavior couldn't be stopped. Even though the cat STILLl has all her claws and I STILLl have my "precious furniture" and she is well-fed and happy to rule the household by doing anything and everything she wants, it's STILLl not good enough for you. Just come and get her- is that what you want me to say??? (I better watch what I say because you twist things.)

And yes, we want to find our dog another home because he has to be chained up living here, and there are no kids for him to play with. What is so wrong with us wanting something better for him? Or do you think it's more cruel to let someone else enjoy him than it is to keep him chained up all the time where he can't run and play????

And for the record, ms. know-it-all do-no-wrong, I have given in to the licking because it wasn't hurting me or her physically, and so I lost the fight and the battle on that one. BIG DEAL!!!

You, Honey have too much time on your hands and you need to get a life!!!