Liz, when I made the request that the urinating contest be taken elsewhere, it was in another forum outside the dog house. I've come to accept is as par for the course in the dog house, but it annoys me in the other forums.


I try to never listen to speeches, I prefer to read the text after the fact. It eliminates variables that can affect how you hear the speech. Given the current events in Iraq, it was a clear statement that needed to be made. The President did not link Iraq to 9-11 in the speech, he linked current events in Iraq to "the war that was brought to our shores on 9-11", as in the terrorists (NOT IRAQIS) who are in Iraq killing both our troops and Iraqi civilians.