Thanks guys, we're planning on starting over with a new dog, but the pigeons won't like it because it will probably be a lot more energetic then old Shelby was. And Pepi will probably hide for awile. .......sigh........ Oh, well. Shelby is in better place, and she's not suffering, but it's sad for me, because I'll be walking around the back yard, and I can swear that I see her out of the corner of my eye, and when I turn to look, she's gone..... I sure wish there was a sadder face than this, and that would discribe how I'm feeling. This is the face I made up, with tears going down it's face. :=( Today, I just knew I heard her, her collor jingling, and when I told my dad, he said that he thought he heard her too.