I'm sorry Heather. AS for the laser light thing, I've never heard of it, but my step-day has one. Maybe I'll try it. When I trance my rabbits I just cradle them in my arms and Gypsee struggles a lot. I sit indian style on the floor, cradle the bun in my arms, if they struggle I lean over them and gently but firmly stroke their heads to their ears and gently but firmly tug on their ears. I do this for as long as it takes. Works really well.