Thanks Val, for the first time ever, I would prefer worms. Kittens are by the tons, and lord knows we dont need more. I am gaining her trust very quickly, so I intend to check her withen the next few days. I hate this sloooowwwww stuff, my paitence's are SLIM , especially when you just want to hold and love them after there horrible life on the streets. I am to the point with my other ferrel that he is going to be a barn cat, that breaks my heart. I can pet him most of the time, but other times he still hisses and refuses to be picked up. I am at a lost, its been 8 months, and I cant keep it up with him. It will break my heart to have to part with him, but i think it will make him happier, i will wait till it gets warmer.