Hi Val, I have a mixed bag of ch symptoms with the gang here. Eli my blue point Siamese boy is worst off, and isn't able to get around without really psyching himself up first, and then it's a rough and tumble affair from there. Poor guy, bless is heart tries very hard to keep up with everyone. Brandon is an overweight ,deaf, slate grey moderate ch boy who was born feral, but one would never know it now. He's quite cross eyed as well, so has trouble focusing on things. He's a big loving mush ball. Misty doesn't have the classic ch symptoms, and the consensus is she was stuck in the birth canal and suffered oxygen loss. She was one of 6 feral kittens born to a very small mama cat. Misty spends much of the day trying to walk a straight line, but spins in circles a lot. She has mild nystagmus as well (rapid side to side eye movement) which when she's scared for some reason gets really bad. Misty & Eli's stories and pictures are on the members page of the ch kitty club (along with Zeke who passed away last year). I have a M*A*S*H unit here, and things get hectic during kitten season as I trap a lot, and do fostering etc. when there's nobody else able to take them in. And you're right about Oliver...it shouldn't get worse unless there's an underlying condition unrelated to ch. Hope his seizures don't get worse...are they quite mild ones? Jan