QSA thanks, I KNOW its harder to do that than saying it , but I will sure give it a try. Caught a cat yesturday, she is terrified and possibly pregnant, or bloted, will check her in a few days after she calms down a little. Poor thing. Ive had one for along time know I can pet him, but only in the cage, so I will try this sack thing on him Wish me luck!