Jods, I saw that same ribbon at Michael's craft store today. I looked for a macrame ring - Michael's, Hancock Fabrics, Walmart - and haven't found one yet! I think maybe lots of people are out there making wreaths!! I think I actually found the shelf where they belong at Wal-Mart but they were just sold out. I'm going to try another Wal-Mart in town tomorrow or maybe after Christmas, when things get restocked.