Wow...all I have to say is that I LOVE reading all the debates here Very interesting and some wonderful points. I, too, believe in crate training, but also agree with some of the points Carrie had about not crate training, and I respect Carrie's words very much. No advice, just wanted to share with you my appreciation for a nice, friendly debate LOVE IT!

[ August 16, 2001: Message edited by: AdoreMyDogs ]