Like Jackie, I was wondering if you couldn't gate off any area of the home during the day so they could have some time out of the crate? Once you're comfortable with them both being able to "hold" it, maybe you could try allowing them more free roam of the house. Since they both can hold it all night long, they would probably do fine during the day. Do you have any concerns about them being destructive? Once I was confident my Star could hold it and was past the chewing phase, I left her alone for longer and longer periods of time and gradually added more rooms she was able to be in unsupervised. I think being crated during the day, with no one coming home during lunchtime, then being crated again at night, might be a bit much for them. If you feel you must keep them in their crates during the day, I would definitely continue to come home at lunchtime. Do you have any concerns about them sleeping out of their crates at night? You can leave their crates doors open; they may want to sleep there, but may also enjoy sleeping in a doggie bed near their parents I found crating to great for training purposes but once trained, I found no need for them except for traveling or to keep them safe if work was being done in the house and such. Decisions!