Etogesic is wonderful. I used to use it more frequently w/ 2 of my dogs but I have been learning about & giving supplements for years & they work well, I also do a lot of theraputic massages on my dogs which helps a lot. I like to not use meds if at all possible. So now my 2 dogs get etogesic only when we go for a hike or other exercise. I give it to them about an hour before we leave. My oldest dog still needs to be lifted in the back of my truck, but he can jump into the front seet most of the time w/o any help.