Nelson Mandela on U.S. actions...

[RICHARD]

i never claimed to be mature.

'youngsters' tend to be idealists until the cold hard boot
of time, and the world, plants one on your backside.

namecalling? that's immature, i agree, and i apologized to being politically incorrect.

how's about arguing the difference between war and murder?
please explain that one.

in el lay (los angeles) there are people who call the '94 riots, 'social unrest'. CAT SPIT!!!!!


my let's dance referral was not about bowie's album but to the
fact that if we are bullies and thugs, even terrorists. and when someone in another country calls on our dance card (dance card- that may be lost on you youngsters, ask an adult..) we will dance.

because there is a dispute as to what war is compared to murder,
i sanitized the war reference to make the united states not seem
as barbarian as we may be led to believe.

we can argue history as long as we want...
that matters is the future..

and if we are going to discuss what a cruel country the u.s. was
read up on the bataan death march. POWs were walked, starved, shot, bayoneted to death- along with the illnesses,
injuries, and suffering those men were put thru.

then think about every mass grave from wwi to gulf war.......
put a name to the b@st@rds that had no thought of piling men women and kids into a pit and killing them. put faces to those people and the families left behind and the suffering they went thru.

you are right, it's not dancing.

it's a damn shame that we have to know about those things and
have to let our children find out about them. in middle school i saw a film where the allies used a bulldozer to push the bodies of the victims of the concentration camps in mass graves.....

funny, even the US has MY LAI to hang their head about
(ask your parents)

we have a short memory when it comes to pissa......ah, other countries doing injustices to each other with ethnic cleansing and other stupid, evil acts......but we get hammered for for using our
technology for taking war to someones doorstep.

back in ww ii we used hundreds of bombers and bombs to take out a factory, now we use one GBU to blow up a building, where some dictator has massed innocent civilians, and we are the criminals?


let's discuss that one.