Thanks guys, it was Karen who posted Lily's pics for us. I think Lilybell thought she was getting meds, might be why she didn't smile so much She is doing great though, a happy camper indeed! Thanks again Karen! Shawn thinks we should take out the stitches ourselves when the time comes, save her the stress of a road trip, cage horrors etc. We did it before when she got an infection from our last vet, he thinks it was because her clinic was unsanitary. Our new vet, however might be confused or insulted if we do that. I am sure he would like to do that himself, follow up you know. What do you all think? Any thoughts are welcome, not sure where I stand really.