I made contact on Facebook with one of Bill's (kokopup) friends and they were in contact by email all the time, but then Bill just dropped off the radar a couple of years ago, for no apparent reason. I had the same experience, since Bill and I would email on occasion. I know he did have a lot of serious health issues that he had long before he even joined PT. I have another couple of ideas to explore if Karen doesn't make any contact by phone with him or his wife. I'd like to think the best, but I almost expect the worst.