Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004
SOME of those people ????? So what you are saying is that the others are just doing it for fun....???? Right ????
And exactly HOW could someone hunting something in the wild be more humane than those who kill abbatoir slaughtered animals ???? They have laws in place exactly how animals are killed in slaughterhouses, and I know for a fact that it is VERY humane. As for hunting....humane ??? Nope, not buying into that one.....I've seen the results of too many hunts in my life, a wounded animal is sometimes tracked for hours and hours, trying to escape with half of it's gut hanging out, and even sometimes the hunters lose the animal, or simply just couldn't be bothered to put in the time necessary to finish the hunt. Some of these animals take weeks to die......I have seen it....many times. If you think for one moment that hunters are humane, then you should have another think coming. How many hunters do you know who are such fantastic shots that we have a "one shot, instantaneous kill" situation. NOT very many.

As for jobs required by the people of Newfoundland, which is their reason to continue these hunts.....well if my memory serves me right....just how humane were the coal pits of Cape Breton ???? Where children no more than 12 years old worked their lives away in the coal mines ???? Only to die of exhaustion or coughing their blood filled lungs up, to eke out a living, so that they could actually have something to eat ??? What for ??? So that someone could get rich !!!! Someone who didn't give a damn about those kids lives. Tragic ???? You betcha !!!! So why did they stop that ???? If responsible people hadn't stepped in at the time....I'll bet my butt that that practice would still be considered by those who care nothing about making money ANY way they can. And so it is the same now with the seal pups.....the dollars are involved, it's as simple as that.

Anyway....who are we to play God ???? To say who or what dies, or who and what lives ???
Wom
Well I can't say all of the hunters because then you would be saying "well how could you know if all hunters do that" it's a lose lose situation

and around here farm raised animals are NOT always treated humanely.... why do you think there is a big bruhaha about taking free range meat over "regular" meat. Because they live more humane lives.... they are killed FAR more humanely. In many cases here the cows that are slaughtered are killed very inhumanely. It has even gone so far in some places to where the cows are not put to death before the slaughter starts.....

I guess I am just lucky to be surrounded by responsible hunters. I have never known any of our friends to wound and animal and not put it out of it's misery and just let it go. No one I know does that.... is that to say it doesn't happen? of course not.

They put a stop to Cape Breton because they were 12 year old kids.... there are labour laws. A bunch of adults going out to do a job to support their families is not NEARLY in the same group as forcing children to work in mines and die. that's like comparing apples to french fries. Again I say.... if it came down to my family starving to death or clubbing seals to put food on my table.... I would pick feeding my starving children over the seals. In that case I would never EVER put an animals life before my families life.

Marigold.... you may not see many homeless people out hunting.... but MANY of those homeless people are fed from the meat that hunters get. Many many hunters donate their "extra" meat to charities that distribute that meat to homeless shelters and other charities.

but you say you wouldn't help someone who was a hunter if they were dying.... by all means that is your choice.... but I don't know many hunters around here that would not help an animal that was suffering. You think they are just cold blooded killers who just go out and shoot shoot shoot.... but I know of more than one who has come across an animal that was injured or sick and taken it somewhere to get it help. if the animal was in terrible condition then they would put it out of its misery.

So it's ok to kill insects.... they aren't animals so they don't deserve the same respect? I don't get that. how can you be for preserving one kind of life and not another? They don't have the same nerve receptors? so because they don't feel the same kind of pain it's ok? That confuses me.... you say all life is equal... unless you are an insect and then you don't matter.

But the bottom line is..... if I had to do the seal hunt to provide for my family I would a million times over. Like I said... it is easy to say how wrong it is when the worst job we can think of here is working at McDonalds or working in a field picking strawberries. but I bet if you had to feed your family you would do whatever you had to to do that. newfoundland isn't exactly job central.