Quote Originally Posted by shais_mom
yup
I've NEVER been around a boxer that was quiet and sedate and calm. NEVER. Unless it didn't feel good. My friend was talking about her dog the other nite and she said the only reason her 3 year old boxer/lab mix was so smart was b/c of the boxer. And I cackled I laughed so hard. I said what are you smoking? There are way more guide dogs that are retrievers-labs than boxers. While they are smart and can be trained to do anything I would never say that they were soooo smart. My aunt and uncle used to raise boxers (ok as much as I love them they WERE BYB) and they had indoor manners the whole nine yards. One day they left the dogs (2) out to do as dogs do and run the farm and when my uncle went out to the barn they had KILLED a 600 pound steer and were attempting to bring down the other one. That was the end of those dogs and the end of boxers at their house.
Well, I realize you weren't calling them all stupid, just giving evidence that they aren't all spazzes LOL. I have two, and am about to have three come tomorrow morning, but my male boxer is one of the smartest dogs I have ever met. He also is very quiet and sedate in stores like Home Depot and Petco. He is pretty quiet around the house to, but if I say let's go play or let's go outside he turns into a different dog, SO happy to play and run and jump. He is 4 and I have trained him from 8 weeks old. Many are "crazy" because poeple don't spend proper time with them, like you said, to socialize and teach them manners. He can open doors in the house, he can carry on a conversation, he actually even tries to say words. I have watched him intentionally reason out how to trick Ginger out of something she has and carry it out to perfection. That's not to say they are all brilliant, but like any breed, there are some that are indeed highly intelligent, and some who are like my beloved Ginger, who are all heart and not a lot of brains LOL. Just wanted to shed some light on the other side of the coin, as I am very close to the breed myself.

I can't say much about Tim and the Daisy situation except I saw it coming, I feel absolutely horrible for that dog, she deserves so much more. Her behavior is entirely his and the family's fault, as a boxer is not a breed that can tolerate that type of lifestyle. I would not say any dog deserves it, but many can tolerate it much better than boxers. They have a desprate need to be with their people, it's even in the breed description. If you truly love this dog, spay her before you sell or give her to your BIL. She is not breed standard to be having puppies and being used as a brood bitch is a crappy life for a dog!