Quote Originally Posted by SunsetRose
You forcing a dog to submit to your control is one thing. You training the dog to be willing to submit to your control and enjoy doing it is another.

No, they are no different. Having a collar properly secured on the dog
is not about "using force". It puts no undue pressure on the dog at all. It's
perfectly normal, but it does prevent the dog from disengaging from it's
focus on the walker. The dog does not have to be checking out every smell he comes across to be having a good time.After the "ground rules" have been
set & your dog knows what you want, you can relax the rules a bit if you
want.