My Gawd! You mean there's a problem I haven't had? I can't imagine your pain. I'm so sorry. It must be awful! I hope by now the orange stuff kicked in. Do you have to drink lots of water or cranberry juice? I have to admit, I cringed when I read your thread. My mom had several in the last few months, most undetected since older people don't usually suffer pain or have any symptoms other than getting loopy. Her last one was totally undetected and caused blood poisoning in her system, so I'm so glad you flew to the ER and had it taken care of! Gentle hugs your way for a speedy recovery.