Hey that ladder one you could buy ladder at garage sales then it would be really cheap. I would how ever paint the ladder first. ummm going to have to go garaging now. With 3 cats I guess its time . I did make a cat bed from the pattern some of you great cat people gave It got a little big . But Moose seems to use it most so large is good for my(newly weight boy now hitting ) 25 Lbs.