I didn't call anyone uneducated. I said that it is an old school train of thought ... and it is. Read a book by any of the nationally recognized positive reinforcement behaviorists. They all say that.

All I have to say is I would never put one of those things around my neck, therefore, I will never put one around my dogs' necks. Especially when I know much better techniques that WORK.


Originally posted by LauraT7
Tristan came to us with a collar similar in operation to the prong collar, except that it was 1" nylon and of course, did not have prongs. the idea behind these collars is that they pinch closed to a snug fit, so that they can't be pulled off (like a buckled/ fixed collar) nor can they get continually tighter like a choke collar ( like a slipnot)
We use those collars at the shelter and in obedience classes. But they aren't meant to be used in leash training at all. Just as a precaution that the dogs don't pull out of their collars.

Well, the dogs DO wear them during leash training I mean. But we don't use them to jerk around the dog or anything like that.