A Quick Question

[aseretnwad]

I know that dogs get very sick when they eat chocolate...but what other foods do they get sick with??



Thank You!!!

[Tinkerboots]

Onions, walnuts and turkey skin are poisonous to dogs as well. Believe it or not, turkey skin has been linked to pancreatis in dogs. They other two, I am unsure on why.

[Giselle]

Grapes (have been linked to kidney failure), and avoid seeds of any kind just to be safe. Still being debated---Garlic.

[Tollers-n-Dobes]

ham isn't very good for dogs.

[KYS]

posted by Tinkerboots:turkey skin are poisonous to dogs as well. Believe it or not, turkey skin has been linked to pancreatis in dogs. >

I never new that.

[dragondawg]

The turkey skin is news to me also. One would not think of something essentially protein possibly causing pancreatitis.

However really fatty meats such as ham can cause pancreatitis in suspectable dogs. Note the word "supectable", as many dogs can eat their fill of holiday ham throughout their lives without any ill effects.

[greysandmoregreys]

I think the key word is moderation.

I know that I give my crew things that have onion in them along with turkey skin, ham, garlic, chocolate...

In small amounts and not all the time these things would hurt a dog.

Garlic actually helps to keep fleas off dogs. But again in small amounts.

[Giselle]

Originally posted by greysandmoregreys
Garlic actually helps to keep fleas off dogs. But again in small amounts.

Like I said, still being debated. I posted on GT asking if there was any proof of garlic preventing fleas. Although there were many people who fed garlic and followed holistic feeding guidelines, nobody had proof that garlic helped prevent fleas. In fact, I think one person said that a study showed garlic had little-minimal effect on fleas. *shrugs* I guess I'm a see-it-to-believe-it kind of person. Lucky had fleas when we went on garlic, so I'm a true Advantage follower

[K9soul]

I'm not sure if garlic has much effect on fleas but it is supposed to be a good antioxidant, a bit sure can't hurt I wouldn't think. I have never heard anything about turkey skin before, in fact when my RB Willie had stomach problems when he was elderly, a turkey and barley formula dog food was one of the only foods he seemed able to tolerate.

I have read chocolate and onions in large amounts can be very harmful.

[dragondawg]

Garlic being of the same family as onions has the same thiosulfate (e.g. sodium 2-propenyl thiosulfate) which has the potential to induce hemolytic anemia in dogs. In particular this involves oxidative damage to the erythrocytes causing their lysis.

There are no existing scientific studies to indicate garlic has any effect on fleas. Most likely the idea was that the components of ingested garlic could somehow ooze back out of the pours of the skin creating a smell to repell the fleas. Or that the blood would be tinted with a taste unpleasant to fleas. But then again a hungry female flea isn't too picky per taste. Also if the concentration is high enough for the secondary metabolites to come out of the skin pours then you probably have a high enough concentration to worry about hemolytic anemia.

A companion substance often mentioned with garlic for fleas is brewers yeast. There is a study out on the effect of brewer's yeast, and at 14 gms/day it failed to repell or kill fleas. Time to stick to the Proban containing line of products (e.g. Sentinel)

I would not hesitate to give my dogs turkey skin - low fat high protein at the upcoming holiday. My two chow hound puppies would probably want more turkey skin than the turkey has to offer.

If your dog has a history of pancreatitis then of course you need to avoid anything out of the ordinary for feeding.

[Scooby4]

Garlic just succeeds in giving the dog GAS!!! Anybody including FLEAS would want to stay away from that!!!
Seriously, Here is the answer to the delima of what to give dogs that prevent fleas. It is: (drumroll) : BREWER'S YEAST!!!
How does THAT work? Well... Brewer's yeast is known to help reduce shedding, improve coats, and limit fleas. It does this by producing a smell that is excreted through the hair folicles/skin of the dog. This "Smell" is undetectible by humans. However, Fleas HATE the "Smell" and go somewhere else. Kind of like living on a garbage heap to the fleas.
The GARLIC THEORY was hence born from this attribute. HOWEVER, It is ACTUALLY THE BREWER'S YEAST THE ACTIVE INGREDIENT!!! Pet stores and Walmart sell brewer's yeast TABLETS with Garlic in them. AVOID these as the garlic causes gas. Get the plain kind if possible. GNC offers Brewer's yeast in powder form that is sold to HUMANS. It is the same thing and maybe cheaper. Add a spoonful depending on the animals weight to their food.
It could take up to a week for the skin/shedding issue to clear up if used daily. The Fleas take a little longer. They won't miracously jump off but they will eventually want to move and lay their eggs somewhere else.
So there... The Garlic Cures Flea myth has been busted!!!!

[Cazi]

Cat food in large quantities can cause problems for dogs as there is too much protein in it for a dogs stomach to handle.

Trust me, from experience, I can tell you that it comes out a hell of a lot quicker than it went in