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Thread: Morning After Pill may soon be OTC. Thoughts?

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    Originally posted by andrea_NMAggie
    What i don't think you're getting, is that this ISN'T birth control, its called "Plan B" for a reason. Like: what to do if your current method of BC fails. I wasn't on the birth control pill during the incident that I used this product. I had just received a prescription for the pill, but had to wait for the proper time of the month to protect myself. So there came the condom...and yes, condoms do fail!! I'm grateful to have had Plan B during that incident, and think about how much less stressed out I could have been if I could have just gone to the store to take care of myself, instead of finding the closest "open" clinic to pick up the prescription at.
    No, I get it. It is a form of birth control in that it's not the abortion pill and it will be used as birth control for many young teens and that worries me for their health. It's a mega dose of the usual birth control pill. Regular BC pills can have deadly side effects and so I would think a mega dose of BC pills can be even more dangerous.

    I know it's called Plan B for a reason and so do you, but we're talking about teens having access to this. I have no problem with it being available, just who it's available to.

    I do understand what it's for, but I think that if someone's not capable (smart enough) of using regular birth control, this really isn't going to help them. Obviously this doesn't apply to you or your situation.

    If they're not smart enough to use it in the first place, I doubt they'll be smart enough to use this.

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    V&J, point taken. I guess I'm just thinking of China where girl babies were once aborted and I misappropriatly associate it with communism. Then I think of the African nations where female genital mutiliation is practiced. WTF!!

    Pit Chic, I just don't know what else to say in a debate with you on this subject. All I know to say is that Forced Sterilization falls into the same category as female genital mutiliation and forced abortion as far as I'm concerned. Clearly there is a problem with unwanted pregnancy in the US, but there absolutely is a better solution than forced sterilization and surgery. Education is the first thing that comes to mind. Getting our heads out of our bums as Americans and accepting the fact that sex is a part of our lives and our childrens lives and we need to start open communications.

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    The biggest problem with that is that vasectomies are extraordinarily expensive and painful to reverse, and the reversal isn't very effective.

    I want to get my tubes tied because I can't stand children, and neither can my fiancee. I want to get off of the pill because it makes me very sick, and also makes it so that I can't have even the smallest amount of caffiene. For a chocolate junkie like me, these last three years on the pill have been horrid. I've tried four different pills, and they all make me sick. This last one seems to have sucked all of the iron out of my blood. I get nosebleeds several times a week and I get dizzy very easily. I also reacted badly to iron supplements, so I'm not sure what to do.

    I could go get an IUD, but that's more painful that a tubal from what my research has told me. It's also less effective and more temporary.

    Fortunately, I have the most wonderful man in the world, and he has agreed to get a vasectomy before we get married, since for some stupid reason men don't have as hard of a time getting sterilized.

    Edit: There are too many people on the planet as it is, why not encourage the population to drop a bit?

    Thank you Wolf_Q!

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    Originally posted by Vio&Juni
    Again, education is the key factor. Take a look at this

    Don't judge these women, they lack education. It's the responsibility of the state, of the education system, of the civil society, of any of us to bring new ways of avoiding the situation.
    Ugh.

    I’m not judging the women. Or the men. All I was saying is both parties are equally responsible in the creation of a child, unless the woman is raped. Pit chic wants is to sterilize the men and all I was sating is that BOTH PARTIES had sex and made the child. Both are the parents and made the choice to have unprotected sex.

    No one should have any form of sterilization forced upon them by the government or anyone else.

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    I've often thought that in a perfect world everyone would be sterilized at puberty until they were ready to start reproducing. I do realize, that that is a totally unrealistic idea, but it's a nice thought.

    Thank you Wolf_Q!

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    WolfChan,

    Have you tried a BC with lower amounts of estrogen? I'm on one and I haven't had any problems with feeling sick except when I had to double up. So far it's been effective and it's supposed to be safer for folks who could be prone to breast cancer.

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    Here's my "perfect world" scenario:

    Everyone is born sterile, and remain that way until the following conditions are ALL met:

    1. The person has a high enough IQ to function in the world at a reasonable level

    2. The person has the means/ambition to support themselves and their children

    3. The person is at least 25 years old

    4. The person actually wants children, and is emotionally capable of parenting them

    Then, and only then, they become fertile.

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    lol
    See- if only God had hired a woman to make this world.

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    Originally posted by Twisterdog
    Here's my "perfect world" scenario:

    Everyone is born sterile, and remain that way until the following conditions are ALL met:

    1. The person has a high enough IQ to function in the world at a reasonable level

    2. The person has the means/ambition to support themselves and their children

    3. The person is at least 25 years old

    4. The person actually wants children, and is emotionally capable of parenting them

    Then, and only then, they become fertile.

    wouldn't that make life alot easier

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    Amen Twisterdog!!

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    Originally posted by Twisterdog
    Here's my "perfect world" scenario:

    Everyone is born sterile, and remain that way until the following conditions are ALL met:

    1. The person has a high enough IQ to function in the world at a reasonable level

    2. The person has the means/ambition to support themselves and their children

    3. The person is at least 25 years old

    4. The person actually wants children, and is emotionally capable of parenting them

    Then, and only then, they become fertile.

    I second that!!!!!!!


    Thank you Wolfie!

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    Thank you Wolfie!

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    Originally posted by Tonya
    Here is a prime example:

    http://petoftheday.com/talk/showthre...rth+in+dog+pen
    exactly

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    whoa...

    Ok, well I see how it could be used well in the case of rape victems. I do think some women will abuse it, more than not. I am anti abortion so I must lean towards otc. But on the other hand, what about guys that see this as a way out of entrapment(via baby) and slip it to some unexpected female. I don't believe in abusing sex, or contraceptives. There are STDs that condoms don't stop. I don't think people should be of any certain age before having a child, given that they atleast finish high school, have a steady job, own their house, and own a car. Maybe a stay at home mom that is married. I will not use it if it comes otc.
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    My thoughts (I am prepared for people to disagree) is that it is very, very bad.

    Conception may have already happened, the embryo just hasn't embedded itself in the uterus. Thus aborting a baby, IMHO.

    I'm just a hippie christian, and you can say so if you like. I don't like the regular birth control pill, either, because it can do the same thing. (And IUD's ONLY work this way!)

    But then again, I'm married and WANT a baby. Maybe I'd feel differently if I were in a rape situation? Probably not, but I don't know.
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