Opinions on this story???

**luckies4me** · 10-17-2003, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Soledad
You have a good point, Luckies. However, I don't think it's unreasonable that a mother wouldn't think that letting her two sons sleep with their new puppy would end like this.

I don't think any mother would ever dreamed something like this would happen. It's terrible this happened, if it did, and I feel sorry for both the dog and the son. But the truth is, none of us knows what really happened. Could have been the kids fault and no one is saying anything, or it could have been that the dog was just starving or had a few screws lose in his head. We will never know.

**Kfamr** · 10-17-2003, 04:04 PM

Micki, this is scary -- We've been agreeing too much lately.

**luckies4me** · 10-17-2003, 04:06 PM

I don't like the mother comment about dogs though. Saying how she would stick to fish and birds, and not have animals "Like dogs".

**Kfamr** · 10-17-2003, 04:08 PM

Originally posted by luckies4me
I don't like the mother comment about dogs though. Saying how she would stick to fish and birds, and not have animals "Like dogs".

Yeah, that bothered me too.
Doesn't seem like the mother is too bright.

**Soledad** · 10-17-2003, 04:09 PM

I don't know...I'd be pretty scarred if I were her. That's about the nicest thing I could probably come up with.

**micki76** · 10-17-2003, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Kfamr
Micki, this is scary -- We've been agreeing too much lately.

LOL! I know KayAnn. We need to stop it and get back to fighting!

**popcornbird** · 10-17-2003, 04:12 PM

If a loved one of mine had his/her fingers bit OFF by ANY type of animal, I wouldn't have anything to do with that type of animal again. I think its a very valid point. She's obviously upset about what happened to her child, and if she doesn't feel comfortable to have a dog as a pet anymore, that's none of anyone's business. Its her choice. If I was bit hard enough by a cat that it would even cause me to have stitches, I don't think I would be brave enough to go near a cat again, despite how much I love them. Just an example. Why should we care if she doesn't plan on having a dog again?

**Kfamr** · 10-17-2003, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by micki76

LOL! I know KayAnn. We need to stop it and get back to fighting!

*HISSES*

**Kfamr** · 10-17-2003, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by popcornbird
If a loved one of mine had his/her fingers bit OFF by ANY type of animal, I wouldn't have anything to do with that type of animal again. I think its a very valid point. She's obviously upset about what happened to her child, and if she doesn't feel comfortable to have a dog as a pet anymore, that's none of anyone's business. Its her choice. If I was bit hard enough by a cat that it would even cause me to have stitches, I don't think I would be brave enough to go near a cat again, despite how much I love them. Just an example. Why should we care if she doesn't plan on having a dog again?

Even your own birds?

**micki76** · 10-17-2003, 04:16 PM

Originally posted by Kfamr
*HISSES*

*Scratches out KayAnn’s eyes*

Wow, I feel better now that we're back on normal terms.

**popcornbird** · 10-17-2003, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Kfamr
Even your own birds?

MY own birds would never bite an ant, not even play bite. Birds as little as cockatiels, even when not tamed and evil, do not have the power to bite someone to that extent. They might be able to make someone bleed, but its not more than a little cut. No way possible for a little tiel to bite hard enough to really injure someone severely.

As for a macaw or larger bird, I have always had good experience with them, but if one went as far as to bite me that hard, I'm quite certain that I'd be scared of those birds for life.

**Kfamr** · 10-17-2003, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by popcornbird
MY own birds would never bite an ant, not even play bite. Birds as little as cockatiels, even when not tamed and evil, do not have the power to bite someone to that extent. They might be able to make someone bleed, but its not more than a little cut. No way possible for a little tiel to bite hard enough to really injure someone severely.

As for a macaw or larger bird, I have always had good experience with them, but if one went as far as to bite me that hard, I'm quite certain that I'd be scared of those birds for life.

I'm not saying they would or they could but if it was possible and if they did, how would you feel?

And what if your birds happened to be a larger bird, and you loved them the same as you did Popcorn and Muffin, how would you feel?

**Kfamr** · 10-17-2003, 04:27 PM

Originally posted by micki76
*Scratches out KayAnn’s eyes*

Wow, I feel better now that we're back on normal terms.

Oh it feels good, even the scratching of eyeballs -- cause I know such actions come deeply and passionatly from the bottom of your heart. YOU DO LOVE ME!

**luckies4me** · 10-17-2003, 04:29 PM

Well I have been bitten by several different animals but am still around them. I have been attacked by dogs and cats several times, but it's not their fault. Either they were scared or it was my fault, like in the case where I got too close to a pits face and he bit me in the nose. MY fault, not his. And I still love dogs. I have been bitten by rats, and I still love rats. Her comment was very stupid because is she was bright enough she should know that one bad apple doesn't ruin the whole crop.

**stacwase** · 10-17-2003, 04:31 PM

I've taken care of lots of paralyzed people before and it's entirely possible that the child couldn't feel what was going on.

So - just to play devil's advocate, let's pretend like we believe the story's true:

We can assume that, to the little puppy, they wouldn't really be like fingers - because they wouldn't have been moving. I mean - when you're playing with puppies they bite your fingers all the time, then you jerk your hand back and say "Ouch", and the puppy learns not to chew on them. Fingers are supposed to move when you bite them.

So let's imagine an innocent little teething puppy (they are teething by that age, aren't they? I really don't know) licks these fingers and notices they taste really good. So he starts chewing on them, and they don't move so the puppy thinks it must be OK to chew them. So he just keeps chewing. Then he gets down to a nice bone to chew on, and it feels good to chew it because it's massaging his cute little gums.

So - I guess if I stretch it, I can imagine that a puppy could chew off a finger of a paralyzed person.

But 4 fingers? And the kid just got up and walked around the next morning? Come on!!! The puppy would have chewed through arteries. The kid would have lost a LOT of blood. Don't you think the kid would have at least lost consciousness from blood loss? The entire bed would have been covered with blood - you'd think that he would have gotten cold from the wet bed long before morning, assuming he was conscious.

If this did indeed happen, nobody did anything wrong though. Most people don't know that much about dogs so the mom might not have thought twice before putting the puppy in bed with her child. I'm sure she never would have imagined something like that happening. And the puppy certainly didn't do anything wrong.

Now I'm going to have to go read the story, which I haven't done yet.