Coyotes!?

**Kater** · 09-26-2003, 02:49 AM

Thanks Twister -- your post cleared up some misconceptions I had about coyotes.

I never know whether to pronounce their name like kai-yoat or like kai-yoat-ee...

Is one more correct than the other?

**Twisterdog** · 09-26-2003, 03:18 AM

You're welcome.

I'm sure the flames are yet to come.

According to Merriam-Webster Online dictionary, the proper pronounciation is, 'kI-"Ot, kI-'O-tE' ... so either way is correct, with kI-Ot being preferable.

I think that saying Ki-O-Tee (at least around here) is more of a slang term. I do think Ki-Ot is more proper.

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

**babolaypo65** · 09-26-2003, 07:23 AM

Around here, the northern part of the state anyway, a lot of folks pronounce it Ko-yo-te, which is the spanish pronunciation.

**CamCamPup33** · 09-26-2003, 08:15 AM

Originally posted by luckies4me
Well then I must have read it wrong. I also felt that a child need not have a gun for any reason!

Now lets all stop bickering and move on. I am sorry if I offended you. Simba and Nala are sweet dogs and I can understand you wanting to protect them.

Kayann, I never said YOU were stupid. I said the comment was stupid...........not stupid, more like a little extreme. But that is my opinion, and yes we can all think what we want.

Okay! good now its over and everything, how about some pictures of that cutie dylan? (i did spell it right, right?

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**luckies4me** · 09-26-2003, 11:24 AM

Yep you spelt it right!

I know, so many people are asking for pics of him, so I will try to upload some of them today.

**babolaypo65** · 09-26-2003, 12:00 PM

PS I love wrinkles in a "so ugly he's cute" kind of way!

**luckies4me** · 09-26-2003, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by babolaypo65
PS I love wrinkles in a "so ugly he's cute" kind of way!

It's a girl

lol. I feel the same way about her, but she is beautiful in my eyes, even though she looks a little funny lol. I love hairless ratties! She is my oldest doe, at a year and a half. She is by far the sweetest doe I have ever had in the rattery and she owns a big piece of my heart.

I also have her son here as well, Harry. His name keeps changing but I think this one will stick!

Here's a pic of Harry, Wrinkles son.

**Kfamr** · 09-26-2003, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by Twisterdog

If you love your domestic dog, admire his qualities, intelliegence and personality ... then it is more than a little hypocritcal to hate coyotes. A coyote and a domestic dog can inter-breed and have puppies together - that is how closely related they are. Coyotes act, think, react and live almost exactly like domestic dogs would, in the same situations. Coyotes are smart, funny, playful, loving parents, loyal to their pack members, shy and useful. Coyotes natural diet is mice, rabbits, lizards, etc. - not dogs and cats. I'm not saying a coyote whose territory was overrun by a new subdivision won't eat a cat or tiny dog to keep her pups from starving ... but it is NOT the norm.
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It really, really irritates me when people who know absolutely nothing about an animal are so quick to give their almighty, always-right opinion about what that animal can or can't, will or won't do, and what should be "done with" that animal. (Before anyone gets all upset here, I'm not addressing this to anyone in particular.) Think of the root of the word "prejudice" ... PRE-judgement - judging before having the facts. Doesn't matter whether it is prejudice towards a race of humans, a breed of domestic dog, or a species of wild animal ... if you don't know what you are talking about, do some research, ask some questions and learn the facts before spouting off your opinion - which will probably be wrong.

I'm not sure if this was directed towards me at all but I for one never said I hated coyotes. I'm a bit frightened of them, as I am any other wild animal.

I NEVER said my opinion was almight, or always right. It sure seems possible for any wild animal, including coyote to attack a dog, as it's happened before.

I don't have to ask questions, but if I wanted to, I would, "Before spouting off my opinion" -- My opinion is exactly what it is, and I am afraid of coyotes. I don't have to know any facts to be afraid of something.

The End. Period. That's that.

**CathyBogart** · 09-26-2003, 10:43 PM

In my experience, fear is usually sprung from ignorance...people who know nothing about reptiles running from a bearded dragon at work today for example.

Twisterdog: You're absolutely right about Coyotes, they're quite small and would be hard-pressed to harm even a small dog. We have a few in our area but I've never been lucky enough to see them, I've only heard them.

My vet has speclated that Star might be half Coyote. She looks a bit like one, and she has the classical behavior problems of a Coyote hybrid, plus when she moves she "slinks" rather like a coyote. ^.^

**Twisterdog** · 09-27-2003, 12:53 AM

I'm not sure if this was directed towards me at all but I for one never said I hated coyotes.

And that is why I said, quote, "(Before anyone gets all upset here, I'm not addressing this to anyone in particular.)" Did you not read that part?

I don't have to know any facts to be afraid of something.

That is exactly the attitude that make species extinct and habitats destroyed, that starts wars, that leads to genocide, lychings and burning crosses. "Don't know nothing about it ... but, by Gawd, I'm scared of it, so it must be bad. Don't wanna learn nothing about it, I'll just keep on hating it and destroy it." Very sad. Facts are what gives you the knowledge and power to stop being afraid, to stop hating. Ignorance is what keeps us afraid.

**Kfamr** · 09-27-2003, 12:57 AM

I NEVER said they were bad. I NEVER said I hated them.
I am afraid for my dogs, just as any mother would be for her child. GOSH.

**popcornbird** · 09-27-2003, 01:01 AM

I don't think a coyote would hurt a dog the size of Simba or Nala. After all, coyotes are dogs too. I wouldn't worry too much. Just take care of them.

Now that I know we have a falcon in our area, I'm not taking my birdies outside. Being cautious is the key to safety.

I love coyotes though. Sure I'm scared of them, but I think they're beautiful. They aren't very big. I saw some in a wild animal refuge several months ago. We have some wild ones around here but I've never seen any. I think they stay out of the cities.

**shais_mom** · 09-27-2003, 01:06 AM

Well, I know that most of the coyotes in my area are coy-dogs so they are bigger. Not saying that they would attack a dog Keegan's size but a pack of them might, or might not. Don't know, don't plan on finding out. There have been all sorts of stories and rumors that fly about them. I saw one that was hit on the highway last spring and it was probably at least 60#.

**binka_nugget** · 09-27-2003, 01:10 AM

Originally posted by Twisterdog
That is exactly the attitude that make species extinct and habitats destroyed, that starts wars, that leads to genocide, lychings and burning crosses. "Don't know nothing about it ... but, by Gawd, I'm scared of it, so it must be bad. Don't wanna learn nothing about it, I'll just keep on hating it and destroy it." Very sad. Facts are what gives you the knowledge and power to stop being afraid, to stop hating. Ignorance is what keeps us afraid.

I'm afraid of coyotes too. Just because I don't know everything about them, doesn't mean I shouldn't have an opinion about them right? I mean, it's human nature to just see something and have an opinion based on what you know. I don't think my fear of coyotes will lead to destroyed habitats or wars anytime soon though..