Puppy!!!!

[wolfsoul]

Originally posted by Crikit
On a side note having the same nickname as the dog in question is really starting to hurt my brain.

Me too. I keep thinking that were are talking about you. I'm so dumb lol. [what?! She had a puppy?! ]

I agree shais_mom.

[RubyMutt]

Okay... since we're sharing where we got our dogs from...
I got my dog from a shelter because other dog owners don't get their dogs spayed or neutered which inevitably causes thousands of homeless dogs to be euthenized!!

Please, open your mind a little and *LISTEN* to what people have to say. If you care about your dogs as much as you claim to then stop being so naive.

[MHMama]

Ricky and Lucy Tu came from a breeder by my daugher as a gift to me. This breeder has you come to her home, see her bitch and their home. She only lets her bitch breed three times total and she does not breed them until they are 3 years old. She only sells the pups to people who come with references and she insists that any pup not wanted for any reason be sold back to her. Once her bitches have bred for the last time, she spays them and they stay in her home or go to the home of someone she knows who wants an older dog. She will not sell to anyone who is going to breed, show or do anything she thinks is less than a pet situation. Not to say that showing is bad, she used to show and she thinks it takes a lot out of the pet.
Desi Lu was bought by our daughter again but from a different breeder. Never again. This one did not seem to be as concerned about the puppies from what my daughter said and I have told our daughter not to recommend her to anyone.
There are good breeders but these are breeders who love the breed and are not thinking about getting rich. Ricky & Lucy Tu's breeder only has one or two litters a year and some years, none. She will not breed any female that is too small because she does not want to endanger her. That's one of the differences from a responsible breeder and one that is not.

[anna_66]

I don't know, she was dumped on the side of the road to fend for herself for almost a week
Angus, he too came from a backyard breeder like you 12 years ago. And Roxey, she came from a petstore that buys from puppymills. I wish I would have known then what I do now. At least I've learned from my mistakes...I wish you and your family would too.
Did you even read what wolfsoul posted?

ideally, a bitch should only be bred every other year and she should not be bred much before two years of age.

That means that your dog should have only had one litter so far in it's life! Please do your dog a favor & get her spayed.

[cloverfdx]

you want to know where our dogs came from , irresponsible people like you *nods*

clovers mum was a pure bred rottweiler only 19 months old *poor baby* and to her "owners" horror gave birth to 12 x breed puppies, the red heeler from the farm up the road got to the rotti bitch and the result were 12 lil babieswho should never have been born, in the last 4 1/2 years i have seen quite a few of clovers siblings get dumped at the animal shelter and none of then have left the place alive

as for miss penny, her mum (a jack russell terrier) was given away her new owners were told that she was spayed not true after being with her new family for a couple of months she gave birth to 4 pups,penny was given to us, and the two other pups stayed with the family and were spayed and neutered (both had to be rehomed due to agresion problems) and the other pup im the litter ended up dying at 6 weeks old so thats where penny came from.

as for Theodore he was from irresponsible people who sold him to a pet shop (i am sooooo ashamed that we bought him)

[pitc9]

(Geeze!!!...see what I miss after not being on for a few days!)

Wow...I don't know what to say, how can you not know that your a backyard breeder, OMG I feel so bad for your little baby, and by baby, I mean the poor dog you've turned into a nostop breeding machine! Are you going to make her keep having babies until she dies...but then again....maybe by

Where did I got my dogs from:
Sierra was 5 months old and was picked up as stray, dumped my someone who didn't want her anymore.
Buddy...my Buddy Boy was left to die alone in an abandoned barn in the middle of no where!! He was so tramatized that after 7 months, he's still afraid of my husband!!

How often do you talk to the people you've already sold puppies to? How often do you check up on them at there homes?

(I really don't think she'll be back here to read our replies, well...maybe once she changes her name again! )

[Albea]

Originally posted by SlaveTo9Dogs
Look you all are being mean. You just belive what you'v read! Have you really seen it with you own eyes?! Or do you just belive what peole say? We have been doing this for a wile and we have gone through trials but that is a comitmit breeders make! We would never breed just for fun! If a one of our dogs does have a serious problem yes we will spay or nurter and retire it. If you dont know what your talking about I sugjust you dont say anything! We know what we are doing!

I was not going to get in the middle of this, although I agree 100 per cent with everybody who said that "backyard breeder" is the only possible name for these people who have put a 3 1/2 poor dog through 6 pregnancies. However, the above quote: "you just believe what you've read" and "You don't know what you're talking about," made my hair stand on end.
We, who had dogs for much longer than this girl has been alive, who do volunteer work for rescue organizations and see the horrors of overbreeding, "don't know what we are talking about?
Only time can make you grow up, in the meantime, It might do you an awful lot of good to do more reading yourself, that's how people have become educated in all subjects since the invention of the printing press.

[puppygrrl4eva7]

Wow do I feel sorry for you're dogs! I wish I could fly down to Arizona and save that poor mistreated pooch! I cannot believe you can do such a terrible thing then hold you're head high and say you aren't doing anything wrong!

[Dogz]

Ok, this is serious! I can't believe you! This is horrible for Crikit's heath! I feel so bad for all of your dogs! Your fourteen and breeding?!? I don't think so! This is so sad. You are just as bad as a puppy mill! Don't act like you know what you are talking about, because it sure doesn't sound like you do! If you really love Crikit, get her spayed!!!!!!
Poor pups.

Emma

[lovemyshiba]

Poor Cricket

I wonder how many of her pups will end up in shelters???

Where did my dogs come from??
Yes, they did come from their mommies, like all pups do, but how did they come to me???

Kito--he was bred to be a show dog, by very responsible breeders, and sold to a woman in New York. Unfortunately, she got cancer and was very sick and could no longer take care of he and his sister. A loving couple who shows Shibas took them in, and we met them at a dog show.

Abbey--we got her at a rescue where she ended up after being transported from a shelter in Ohio--someone didn't want her

Riley--I took him from a woman's arms in the parking lot of the spca on day, as she was on her way in to surrender him

[wolfsoul]

I know that you're saying that if there weren't irresponisble breeders, some of our dogs wouldn't be here today. I wouldn't trade Timber for the world. BUT if not having her meant that there wouldn't be any BYBs or puppy mills or poor doggies in shelters, than it would be worth it. The millions of dogs that die each year in shelters and puppy mills are millions of lives, and are more important to stop than my ownership and friendship to Timber. That's how I look at it.

[Cataholic]

Where did Binx come from?

Why, from a BYB, of course. Is he 'pure bred'? Absolutely. AKC registered? Nope, won't give the club that turns their back on the pups the money necessary to register him.

Binx has health problems, major ones. Why? His line isn't pure. Why? Cause the people that bred him were prolly 'in it for the business' (which should immediately send a signal to the world that this is BYB at its finest). At a minimum, Binx's people were ignorant and irresponsible. Like you. Not stupid, but, ignorant. At 14, you don't know anything that isn't crammed down your throat by your parents. That is scary. I feel for both your puppy AND you. That you can stand by and justify your position does not bode well for your future.

Want to make money? Go cut some grass. Babysit, clean house. Do that which puts you and your energies on the line. Leave your poor puppy out of it.

Prayers to your household of pets. They need it. You and your family? You guys need a good AK!!!!!

[apcrs5122]

Now you've really got me goin'
You wanna know where Alex came from??? Well, I don't exactly know the whole thing, but here's what I do know.


I have volunteered at the local shelter for almost 4 years now. On Saturdays, PetCo and the shelter have a thing called 'Adopt a Pet'. My mom and I go out there alot, and 3 weeks in a row we took out Alex. On the 4th time, we took him back, put him in his run, turned around to go clean up, and turned back around and got out Alex and went to the front and said "We're taking him home." We asked about his story and this is what we got told:

Alex came in as a stray with his collar and all of his tags. The workers called the owners and the owners said they just didn't want him back. A throw away He was almost 10 years old, and they'd had him since he was a puppy. So he was old, humongus, and very long-haired. He only weighed 86lbs when we took him, and now he weighs 115lbs. He was way under weight. We think he was cornered and beaten. He was teased with food. Made to sit back and watch the other dog eat until there was only 1/2 cup left for him, and they wouldn't give him any more He was kept outside all the time, and they said he was a 'fence jumper'. Yeah, well, he was jumping a 4ft fence (hey, he's like what, almost 3ft tall anyway) and using a sand box to go over. So obviously they weren't trying to keep him in very well now were they?


This isn't quite as detailed as it could be, but my post is long enough.

I'll still pray for Cricket.

[SlaveTo9Dogs]

You know everyone? Look my dogs are my life! I love them to death! We are responsible breeders. We make shure that our puppys go to hames that will love and care for them! Look I wrote that first messeg to tell you all good news. Not to tell me how to raise my dogs! Sorry I even put it there. You know I read all of them and out of all you 1 just 1 person said somthing nice. If you want to says somthing please keep it to your self.

[CamCamPup33]

Do you see any of us saying Raise your dog like this.. Because this is right.. Maybe you should change this... no... We are suggesting what you can do for your dogs health... And please dont say we are being rude because we are looking out for your dogs.. And we arent feeling sorry for your sad faces.. i stand by what i said.. Who else does??