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    The Aussies are taking over!!!!!

    Howdy all:

    This email is somewhat premature. As some folks know,
    I was supposed to have finished an RMHF article by now
    to chronicle the introduction of downunder ratties in
    the New World. (I am thinking New World because this
    gene is definitely like none other seen around here -
    plus I would say obscure connections to Australia
    exist - Australia and the Americas are the only places
    in the world with marsupials, for example.)

    Anyway, the gene is out. Four breeders now have these
    guys - three in California (including myself), one in
    Oregon (to be picked up March 22nd), and one in
    Washington State.

    I don't personally have a website (one day, one
    day...), but the other four are online:

    Cassandra Barlow (Romping Rats Rattery):
    http://www.geocities.com/luckies4me/index.html

    Jennifer Flores (Li'l Rugrats Rattery):
    http://www.lilrugrats.com/

    Debbi Needham (Odd Fellows Rattery):
    http://www.skyclyde.com/

    Sandy Sprague (Angel Paws Rattery):
    http://angelpawsrattery.tripod.com/

    There will also be updated info (some day, some
    day...) available on my local fancier's group Rat,
    Mouse, and Hamster Fanciers (RMHF):
    http://www.ratmousehamster.com/rmhf/

    Still working on that RMHF newsletter - lots of
    updated info for the downunders will be available in
    hardcopy form with the RMHF before elsewhere. (Honest
    - just very behind with it all - almost no computer
    access this past month!) =P

    Since this gene is so new to these lands, I highly
    recommend the websites of Tracey York in Australia
    (BratPack Rattery and RatManDU):
    http://www.ratmandu.com/index.html

    Please also view the website of the National Fancy Rat
    Society (NFRS) - downunders are now a new
    unstandardized variety with the NFRS:
    http://www.nfrs.org/

    This group will be open to all interested persons.

    Thanks for your patience!

    Respectfully, Connie Perez.

    "This group is dedicated to downunder rats in the New
    World - not just the United States or North America.
    Downunder rats first arrived in San Francisco, CA on
    Friday the 13th, December 2002 - all thanks to Tracey
    York in Australia. The RMHF (Rat, Mouse, and Hamster
    Fanciers) was the first group to cater to them. From
    there, they will find their way to interested fanciers
    across the Americas. We are in a unique position to
    see this gene find new expression and flavor - we have
    genes never seen before in Australia, the native land
    of downunder rats. One of the goals of this group is
    to explore the new genetic combinations in responsible
    and nonabusive ways - we do not wish to exploit or
    'puppy-mill' this gene. We also hope to continue the
    wonderful work started in Australia. We hope to
    understand the unique qualities of the native
    Australian color genes. We hope to find better
    understanding about this gene - perhaps none like it
    exist in the rodent world. We hope to continue close
    ties with other breeders worldwide, while maintaining
    a focus on the unfolding developments in the New
    World. Thank you for stopping by!"
    Fuzzies for Furries
    Northwest Opossum Society
    Zoology Major
    2 Virginia Opossums, 6 cats, 4 bearded dragons, 1 iguana, 1 red foot tortoise, 1 tripod chihuahua, 5 mice, dubia and hissing cockroaches as well as other misc animals that wander in and out of my home.

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    These guys are totally new to the USA. (I am trying
    to be inclusive of Canada, and anyone else in the
    Americas who might be interested down the road...)

    Technically, there is no 'nwdu' gene. There is the
    original downunder gene from Australia, which was
    imported in December of 2002 directly from Australia.

    In Australia, they do not have dumbos, and so there is
    no confusion for the usage of the symbols 'DU' for
    their downunder gene.

    As of right now, there is some debate as to whether
    downunder (DU), not dumbo (du), is an allele at the
    hooded locus, found on rat chromosome 14.

    So, that is one extremely important reason that we all
    work together on this. Establishing the correct
    chromosome and locus will be a great task. This is a
    dominant gene - it will be difficult to determine
    whether this gene is linked or allelic to any of the
    American/UK/European genes that *we* have access to.
    (If we had laboratory resources, this would probably
    be a much easier task!)

    Since Australia cannot import any pet rats, they must
    work with a much smaller gene pool than what is
    available over here. Literally, *all* of their novel
    genes are totally new mutations.

    This is literally the very first time that anyone in
    the world can confirm and test three novel Australian
    genes - Aussie mink, Aussie blue, and Aussie red-eyed
    dilution. We are testing these genes right now.

    I can't even say which area of the world has the most
    diverse rat genes. We have been extremely fortunate
    to have English and European genes imported through
    the years.

    But, knowledge is sometimes lost. For example, the
    identity of the blues (USA/UK) was confirmed in the
    early 1990s. BUT, that knowledge has not been widely
    publicized. I am totally surprised to hear anyone ask
    whether English blue will breed true with American
    blue - absolutely yes, it does.

    We will soon find out whether the same holds true for
    Aussie blue, and possibly more genes to come...

    In the meantime, getting back to what is so special
    about this downunder gene???

    Off and on, I have done quite a bit of literature
    searches specifically on rat coat color genetics. I
    have always been quite fascinated by the hooded
    series. Think about it - any hooded mice? Hooded
    hamsters? Hooded gerbils?

    Rats have a goldmine of spotting genes - all on one
    locus! Where does the downunder gene fit in??? If it
    is truly a separate gene, it could literally be the
    very first of its kind, anywhere in the rodent world -
    possibly the mammal world.

    (I cannot think of any other mammal species that has
    any markings like the downunder rat...)

    As of right now, we can't even imagine the potential
    this gene has for this country. The first litters
    have been born - the first litter has been rehomed.

    I hope you can share my enthusiasm. =)
    Fuzzies for Furries
    Northwest Opossum Society
    Zoology Major
    2 Virginia Opossums, 6 cats, 4 bearded dragons, 1 iguana, 1 red foot tortoise, 1 tripod chihuahua, 5 mice, dubia and hissing cockroaches as well as other misc animals that wander in and out of my home.

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    A pic? But of course!
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    Fuzzies for Furries
    Northwest Opossum Society
    Zoology Major
    2 Virginia Opossums, 6 cats, 4 bearded dragons, 1 iguana, 1 red foot tortoise, 1 tripod chihuahua, 5 mice, dubia and hissing cockroaches as well as other misc animals that wander in and out of my home.

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    Freckles as a baby Notice his beautiful spots. He has a colored cap with spots on the back, a white tummy but spotted with black spots. Very unique!
    Fuzzies for Furries
    Northwest Opossum Society
    Zoology Major
    2 Virginia Opossums, 6 cats, 4 bearded dragons, 1 iguana, 1 red foot tortoise, 1 tripod chihuahua, 5 mice, dubia and hissing cockroaches as well as other misc animals that wander in and out of my home.

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    Forgot the pic
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    Fuzzies for Furries
    Northwest Opossum Society
    Zoology Major
    2 Virginia Opossums, 6 cats, 4 bearded dragons, 1 iguana, 1 red foot tortoise, 1 tripod chihuahua, 5 mice, dubia and hissing cockroaches as well as other misc animals that wander in and out of my home.

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    Originally posted by luckies4me
    ...In Australia, they do not have dumbos
    Oh yes they do

    Nicole, Mini, Jasmine, Pickles, Tabasco, Schnaggles and Buffy

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    I hope you mean people because if you mean rats this would be a real breakthrough to the fancy!!!!!!
    Fuzzies for Furries
    Northwest Opossum Society
    Zoology Major
    2 Virginia Opossums, 6 cats, 4 bearded dragons, 1 iguana, 1 red foot tortoise, 1 tripod chihuahua, 5 mice, dubia and hissing cockroaches as well as other misc animals that wander in and out of my home.

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    Originally posted by luckies4me
    I hope you mean people
    LOL

    No offense or anything (cute rat pics btw!!) but shouldn't this be in Pet General?

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    hehe now that I reread it I suppose it should. Sorry bout that.
    Fuzzies for Furries
    Northwest Opossum Society
    Zoology Major
    2 Virginia Opossums, 6 cats, 4 bearded dragons, 1 iguana, 1 red foot tortoise, 1 tripod chihuahua, 5 mice, dubia and hissing cockroaches as well as other misc animals that wander in and out of my home.

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