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    Originally posted by mugsy
    OH I see how it is....brainwashing me into answering you eh?? lol

    I am truly interested in how you are in California and have such a conservative outlook on life.
    we are a pretty diverse cross section out here.

    mom was a demo and dad became a naturalized citizen in his late 70's, that was his dream. we were brought up to look at people as people, not pigeonhole them into categories...conservative?
    what's that? lol........... you have the people who complain about everything but do not have the heart to get involved with the issues. we just had a guy spend two months in a tree to keep it from getting cut down, the sheriffs had to take him down....i said we were diverse, not sane!

    we become conservative (not me) because we become relaxed and blind (american pride?) with the way things are out here.

    as i said before my dad pounded into my head, even tho he could not vote, if you have no vote, you have no voice....a plain and simple belief. and because he had no voice, he was determined to get the message to his kids that we have to be extremely careful and cherish what a wonderful gift it was to live here.

    you'll find the people who cannot, do not, or won't vote are the biggest blowhards.

    good or bad, better or worse, warts or clear complexion. it's what
    we have to work with, like it or not. He taught us that if wwe did not like things, keep your mouth shut and go along with the program, it's a small price paid to reap the benefits of something in your hand that no one else has. whiny complainers are just that, complainers.

    a line from a song i heard long ago was-
    be vain, be smart, be humble, be dumb.
    i guess that was his motto, in a roundabout way

    conservative??

    people who read from scripts are the ones who get the microphone ( i saw keifer sutherland down the street a few weeks ago....i like the show '24'......did i say we were sane?)
    and very rarely we get one who can talk without a script.....

    i guess it depends on who you talk to......if you talk to me you'll probably get a skewed version of the facts, if you decide to come on out, don't expect a whole bunch of things.....we can get to the desert, mountain with snow and the beach (80 degrees) in one day, disneyland, universal studios, sunshine and a whole bunch of other stuff..... be forewarned, we have car chases, crime, earthquakes, homeless and all the seedy things that happen under the soft underbelly of a huge metropolis like Los Angeles. But if you decide to come out, bring your sunscreen, shorts and an open mind you'll have a good time.

    leave your paranoia and the idea that you'll get pulled out of your car in broad daylight at home......i won't lie to you. but i can guarantee you'll go home and say, "geez, that was fun.."

    we ARE the land of fruits and nuts, earthquakes, car chases,
    stars and smog.........and some pretty damn good people, when the going gets tough. But, you'll have to find out that for yourself




    it was 80 degrees a few days ago......that was a CONSERVATIVE estimate!!
    Last edited by RICHARD; 02-05-2003 at 05:46 PM.

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    you will come to california and see for yourself.....

    you will come to california and see for yourself.....

    you will come to california and see for yourself.....



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    And you propose we do what with our 20 dogs?? ehehehe

    You paint an interesting picture of the state. I have never really been inclined to visit before.


    Don't buy while shelter dogs die!!

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    rent a van, you can keep them in my yard to keep my cat company.......It's a huge lot!

    when the next earthquake hits maybe it will 'incline' the country and you'll have no choice....


    was that interesting? sheesh, i'm bored with some of the stuff....

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    Richard....2 of our dogs are Great Danes! lol And Vonney to name one, would just as soon eat a cat as look at it! lol Perhaps we can think about it if we can find a big enough vehicle to get all of them in there!


    Don't buy while shelter dogs die!!

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    Originally posted by mugsy
    Richard....2 of our dogs are Great Danes! lol And Vonney to name one, would just as soon eat a cat as look at it! lol Perhaps we can think about it if we can find a big enough vehicle to get all of them in there!
    How about a retired school bus?!? Can't you just see the dogs all lines up in their seats!

    Richard- I have to say a lot of your posts crack me up !I agree with alot of what you say, so I am not laughing at the contect, but at the manor in which it is delieverd. Reminds me soooo much of one of my best friend's in HS.

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    On what basis is Hilary Clinton a socialist? And can you tell me what's wrong with socialism? Can you tell me what socialism is?

    I find that Americans often define socialism as something synonymous with communism. But I guess ignorance creates fear.

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    communism

    ay caramba!

    communism is the air raid sirens going off on the last friday of each month at 10 hundred hours......ask your parents.

    ignorance is bliss

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    I define socialism as the people owning everything and people having to give a lot of what they make to make sure that everyone has money even if they don't want to work. I also see the medical field as a mess where if you absolutely need surgery you will wait for months if not longer. I also see it as a lack of competition to be better, thus turning to apathy. But, I'm sure I'm wrong.


    Don't buy while shelter dogs die!!

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    Originally posted by mugsy
    I define socialism as the people owning everything and people having to give a lot of what they make to make sure that everyone has money even if they don't want to work. I also see the medical field as a mess where if you absolutely need surgery you will wait for months if not longer. I also see it as a lack of competition to be better, thus turning to apathy. But, I'm sure I'm wrong.
    oh, how quickly they turn on you.....

    i work in the medical field......


    communism is where the government get everything and the
    proletartiat gets screwed

    and socialism is where the govrerment gets everything, the proletariat thinks he gets something, and still gets screwed.

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    Originally posted by Cincy'sMom

    Richard- I have to say a lot of your posts crack me up !I agree with alot of what you say, so I am not laughing at the contect, but at the manor in which it is delieverd. Reminds me soooo much of one of my best friend's in HS.
    poor thing you that was not friendship, it was torture..

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    on the last friday of each month at ten a.m. in the morning the
    air raid sirens would be tested.

    the idea was to warn of a possible nuclear attack by those wild and crazy russians, who were decidely communist.

    at the sound of said sirens you were to 'stop drop and cover'
    which, during a nuke attack was tantamount to doing what the
    old poster from the 70's asked you to do.......

    drop yer drawers, sit, put yer head between your knees and kiss yer arse good bye!

    now that communism is a mere wisp of the tyranny it once was
    we know have gone to the ultra conservative drop drill here in sunny california! no sirens no mess no warning.

    the most terrible part of those air raid sirens going off unexpectedly, was your heart dropped in your chest and you frantically tried to remember what day it was.

    a fun and retro experience......

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    Originally posted by RICHARD


    poor thing you that was not friendship, it was torture..
    TOO TRUE!!!

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    I can do that too....

    Capitalism is when the already privileged and rich get richer on the backs of the middle class and working poor. There is little chance to break from the cycle, and if you don't it's because you're lazy and not because the system was against you from the start.


    Hmmmm...that was fun.

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    I haven't read any of this discussion.....

    I didn't watch Bush's speach the other day, really, but I heard a couple of parts. I may be imagining things (it's possible, this word drives me insane) but...

    Does it bother anyone else that he cannot pronounce the word Nuclear ???? It's NOT nuCUlar! lol....

    Sorry.....you don't have to reply to this.....I'm just bored...and I'd rather not get into this discussion.......

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