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    As far as his burial at sea - I heard two reasons. One was because they didn't want a martyr's graveside for his followers to worship at, and the other was keeping in accordance with Muslim law and burying within 24 hours. Frankly, I don't think the U.S. could care less if this monster had a proper burial in accordance with any religious laws - they just wanted to be rid of him so that he wouldn't be taking up valuable real estate, and people wouldn't be able to weep at his grave. JMO of course.

    And retaliation??? - of course - it's just a matter of how, what, where and when - and we already know why. We haven't heard the last of this "man" - as there are others that will carry on for him.
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    I am not from USA.. but here´s my point of view.. (from what I´ve gathered)

    I sincerely hope with all my heart it was him.. really.. but I´m also skeptical..
    the burial at sea thing.. sure could be because of respect.. not aaaall his family was like him.. they also didn´t liked the way he was

    why I´m skeptical is how fast everything was out and done with..

    bad thing here.. and I hope I´m wrong.. is that when you cut off a head two more grow up.. just like that mythology monster.. but I really hope this gives the whole world a break.. not only USA is affected by his actions.. I believe it was worldwide...

    even though I don´t live or have a say as to your president.. I never liked him.. to me had this something that just gave me bad feelings.. lol.. but anyway.. every president has done bad things.. usually trying to fix what others have left behind.. and not only saying this goes to Bush.. but way way back in the line.. it just keeps adding up..(i your country and in mine too)

    one thing that bothered me the most is that he cut pay off the militaries.. I´ve read on sooooo many military wives fb friends.. how they got cut off.. so giving him (Obama) credit for this is soooo out of line IMO.. the FULL credit goes to the corps forces.. whichever it was.. not him.. and they ALL should have their paychecks WITH a raise.. these are the people giving their lives for you (directed to Obama) and your country and the worlds too (because we all get benefited too).. and you cut their pay..

    so no.. he doesn´t deserves to take credit for that.. and I do kind of see it as a reelection campaign... in the subtle way.. but it´s there..

    I just hope everything will be over or at least calm and all the troops can take a break back home to their loved ones..
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    Interesting article with updates. American forces succeded in spite
    help (so called) from Pakistani secret police. This was a months long
    effort and Osama was identified & his location verified long before Obama
    gave the go ahead to attack & take him out.(kill him) Osama was shot
    twice in the face.

    Major kudos to our Special Forces.

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    While its good that justice has been done swiftly and a major terrorist idol and leader has been taken off the map, the excessive celebration is unnerving to me as are the people who wanted him alive or his head on a pike.

    I believe we must be mindful not to let the immoral actions of others cause us, in turn, to commit such misdeeds. This is indeed how molevolence spreads its claws over humanity. For anybody who believes in any sort of judgement day, you'll certainly need a better excuse than "but everybody else was doing it" when you have to explain how you let yourself think of nothing but torture and vengence when you logically know it won't bring back the people this man has killed. Watching the celebrations sickens me as much as watching the acts that Bin Laden himself commited. Its time for people to rise above malevolence or I'll be holding a welcome sign if the end of the world does come.
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    Re the burial at sea . . . . .


    From Politico -

    Osama Bin Laden’s body was buried at sea early Monday morning in an Islamic ceremony performed aboard the aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson, a senior defense official said today.

    The religious ceremony, performed by a military officer and translated into Arabic by a native speaker, occurred between 1:10 a.m. and 2 a.m. EDT in the North Arabian Sea, the official told reporters in a background briefing at the Pentagon.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz1LDkXwQg5
    I have also read that President Bush (43) was called by President Obama before the event took place. Both Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rumsfeld have congratulated the President. And wonder of wonders, Mr. Trump did not have an attack of apoplexy. He said -
    I want to personally congratulate President Obama and the men and women of the Armed Forces for a job well done.

    I am so proud to see Americans standing shoulder to shoulder, waving the American flag in celebration of this great victory.

    We should spend the next several days not debating party politics, but in remembrance of those who lost their lives on 9/11 and those currently fighting for our freedom.

    God bless America!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRescue452 View Post
    the excessive celebration is unnerving to me as are the people who wanted him alive or his head on a pike.
    I agree.

    I hesitated to post in this thread, and I haven't said this on FB. But I think it is sad that a country has to issue an "assassinate" order and carry it out. We are really no different from 2000 years ago. This is not one of the prouder moments in Civilization's development.
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    Tho I can't say that I'm the least bit sorry that this man is dead (if he really is), I do find it inappropriate to be celebrating and dancing in the streets. It reminds me of the videos I saw on 9/11 - of the bin Laden supporters - dancing and celebrating the terrible events of the day that transpired in the U.S. All I thought of when I saw those actions, was "how barbaric - how cold - how cruel and inhumane - and how can anyone celebrate mass death and destruction"??? Tho bin Laden did not deserve to walk with mankind, I don't feel a public display of joy and jubilation was called for. However, I did notice too, that most of the revelers last night were young people - many barely old enough when 9/11 took place, to know or understand what it was all about. As is typical of so many young people, they are quick to jump on a bandwagon without thinking first, but I suppose it's easy to get caught up "in the moment".
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    I just hope no fish who may snack on him get sick!!! He's done enough harm.
    No matter what anyone does, someone some where will be offended some how!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces View Post
    I just hope no fish who may snack on him get sick!!! He's done enough harm.

    LOL I had the same thought. Don't want to poison the fishies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    I agree.

    I hesitated to post in this thread, and I haven't said this on FB. But I think it is sad that a country has to issue an "assassinate" order and carry it out. We are really no different from 2000 years ago. This is not one of the prouder moments in Civilization's development.

    and I am really sad that 3000 innocent civilians were burned to death in
    the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001. That those people left behind innocent children and families forever changed by some evil man's scheme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pomtzu View Post
    However, I did notice too, that most of the revelers last night were young people - many barely old enough when 9/11 took place, to know or understand what it was all about. As is typical of so many young people, they are quick to jump on a bandwagon without thinking first, but I suppose it's easy to get caught up "in the moment".
    Though many young people on September 11 may not have understood what happened, we certainly understand the impact of it as we aged. And many young people were very much affected by what happened on 9/11. I may have been 9 years old at the time, but I knew the pain of seeing my brother go to Iraq and Afghanistan several times. And because of that I learned of the events of 9/11 and what it meant.

    I don't mean to be defensive because I'm young. But most people my age certainly understand the events of 9/11 now, because we are no longer children.


    Although I'm not out cheering and celebrating on the streets, I am certainly thankful that this man is dead. And I'm thankful for our wonderful troops who go out everyday and risk their lives, even when they didn't agree with why they were over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dab_20 View Post
    Though many young people on September 11 may not have understood what happened, we certainly understand the impact of it as we aged. And many young people were very much affected by what happened on 9/11. I may have been 9 years old at the time, but I knew the pain of seeing my brother go to Iraq and Afghanistan several times. And because of that I learned of the events of 9/11 and what it meant.

    I don't mean to be defensive because I'm young. But most people my age certainly understand the events of 9/11 now, because we are no longer children.


    Although I'm not out cheering and celebrating on the streets, I am certainly thankful that this man is dead. And I'm thankful for our wonderful troops who go out everyday and risk their lives, even when they didn't agree with why they were over there.

    I certainly wasn't painting all young people with the same brush, but my point was that it's the young people who sometimes jump in with both feet before testing the water, and maybe don't really think first.
    Yes - I'm glad he is dead too as I previously stated - but I wouldn't be out cheering and dancing in the streets celebrating. Sorry if I upset you or anyone else, as I too know how many have given their lives to protect this country from the evils of the likes of anyone like bin Laden. The young people of our country are spirited and demonstrative as they always have been (I was in my early 20's in the Viet Nam era protests so I remember quite well) - however - outwardly celebrating anyone's death for any reason is distasteful to me.
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    There once was a terrorist named Osama
    Who ruined the world with his drama
    It soon came to pass
    Navy Seals kicked his (rear)
    And that's made up for our trauma.

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    I am just amazed at the utterly ridiculous accusations and things said about President Obama. I am not a major fan of him either, but really some people just take things way too far. Not only people on the internet, but people at school and everywhere else as well. You know, I can understand not being a fan of him, and I can understand you don't support his views. I watched the 9 minute and 27 second speech and not once did he take all the credit for this. This isn't "just a re-election ploy", it's justice for thousands killed and that is not only the victims of 9/11. Call him a lame duck president, call him an idiot, call him arrogant, call him whatever you want but it's just downright disrespectful to say he is using this for his own personal gain. He has shown he is a very decent man. It's not only disrespectful to him, but it's disrespectful to soldiers(alive, dead, wounded, etc) and their families who mourn their loses and support them. Regardless of what you think of him as a president, don't treat him like he's a complete @$$hole who has no human decency.

    I can't even tell you some of the idiotic, ignorant things I heard at school today. Marigold, I couldn't have said it better myself.

    As for the death, well, I guess I'm indifferent. I feel like there will never be enough justice done for what this man did to millions of people. I guess it could be some closure, but really I'm just indifferent. I question whether it was worth everything we put into it. But I see many people on the news happy about the death, so that in turn makes me happy. I just hope it helps some people. I am glad we are rid of this evil, but there are still many more out there and hopefully one day we will overcome all of them. For now, at least this small battle is over.

    As for being young on 9/11, I was in third grade. It effected my family very deeply. Especially my parents. My Dad was on a plane that day, and we didn't hear from him till that night. I'm sure my mom knew it wasn't his plane, but in the panic of it all, she later told me she just sat and cried and thought he was dead. They didn't say what flight it was, because they didn't know at first. He later said he passed the towers that morning and it was just and unbelievable feeling. My brother went to war in 2004. I will never forget the feelings I had. Everytime we heard of soldiers dying it just tore us all up. I was very young, but I knew the basic idea of war. He was in that hell for 14 months. He never talks about it, no one brings it up. I remember when my Dad asked him something about it, he started crying once. I don't know exactly what he asked him, but it isn't something he wanted to bring up. I still don't know everything about 9/11 or fully understand it, but I don't believe anyone truly does. That is a rare form of evil, and I don't think anyone fully can grasp it. I know the basics about it, but I do know how it effect my family and I know it effected more so much worse.
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