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    I love virgin olive oyl.


    Popeye ruined if for me.


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    Who's deep in the pockets of the oil companies?

    For thirty years we've listened to politicians bleat about our dependence on foreign oil.

    Nuclear power is a legit option.......but it was killed by trial lawyers and hollywood overreacting to an accident which wasn't a disaster, it was a proof of concept.

    A plant had a catastrophic failure, and a bunch of people got the radiation equivalent of an extra dental X-ray.....if they were living a mile or less from the plant. Result? Panic, lawsuits and essentially the destruction of an industry which COULD have reduced our dependence on oil.

    Inshore drilling? Nope, can't do it, too dangerous.

    Offshore drilling? Nope can't do it, too dangerous.

    Coal? Nope, can't do it, too dangerous and too much pollution, regardless of how the smokestack emissions are handled.

    Hydro? Nope, can't do it, regardless of how fish friendly we can make the dams.

    Wind? Nope, can't do it, it will ruin our view. (Doesn't work all the time anyway)

    Solar is impractical, low energy density and messy to construct...........unless of course, we do it in space, which we can't do, because NASA is just a waste of money we could use to guarantee another dependent generation of voters. Social programs are far more important than something that could actually give people gainful employment and solve a problem.



    There are many alternatives to oil currently available............but people need to decide whether we're going to actually DO something, or just listen to another generation of political idiots bleating about a problem no one wants to really solve, because they are ALL to busy getting money from one group or another, which, in the long run, keeps us dependent on oil and guarantees that no solution will be USED. Note, not FOUND, USED!
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post


    There are many alternatives to oil currently available............but people need to decide whether we're going to actually DO something, or just listen to another generation of political idiots bleating about a problem no one wants to really solve, because they are ALL to busy getting money from one group or another, which, in the long run, keeps us dependent on oil and guarantees that no solution will be USED. Note, not FOUND, USED!
    You forgot geothermal......

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    I completely forgot geothermal.

    Mea culpa.

    I purposefully left out a few really freaky technologies which are possible, but not probable (MHD), or far too weather sensitive (Tidal, and a couple of really oddball thermal techs)
    The one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind wasn't king, he was stoned for seeing light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady's Human View Post
    I completely forgot geothermal.

    Mea culpa.
    Just don't let it happen again....

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    Who is blaming the President on a exclusive level?

    Follow the money. You know, never let a crisis go to waste.


    Obama authorizes a 2 billion dollar loan to Brazil's oil company, Petrobas. Petrobas is going to drill almost 1500 meters DEEPER than the Deepwater Horizon. (I thought the accident that happened was because it was to risky because it was too deep?) Better yet, who is Petrobas's largest shareholder? You guessed it... George Soros.

    How much did ole' Georgy donate to Obama's campaign? Who is the real winner by just banning all offshore drilling? Hmmmmm....

    From 2009... http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...120524166.html


    Never let a crisis go to waste indeed. "Look over here! Lets beat up the 'evil' Texans. Never mind what's going on over there...."

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    FWIW, BP indeed made mistakes. Seems to me they are paying for them. I wonder what will happen to the 'insiders' who also have a role in the blame trail?

    Right... Some people are pathologically incapable of admitting a mistake. Bummer, because the best medicine is the kind that tastes bad.

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    It's fun watching the worst administration in US history** flail away. Fun and yet so very sad that it took what is going on to wake the people up.

    **That's saying something, considering what we have recently endured.


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    Side note.... STILL with the out of context "doo doo" line? LOL I always wanted to be (in)famous.
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    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem..._oil_spill.php


    It seems like deja vu all over again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwina's Secretary View Post
    BP ignored direction from Haliburton about safety – must be Al Gore’s fault.

    BP ignored the advice, complaints and concerns of its own employees about safety on the oil rig – President Obama’s fault of course!

    A Congressperson from Texas who is DEEP in the pocket of the oil companies (is there any other kind of Texan???) apologized to a foreign company responsible for a hideous disaster causing major damage to this country. For what did he apologize? Because the government of the United States DARED to try and hold that foreign company accountable.

    Earlier someone asked what we will tell future generation. Apparently we will tell them “doo-doo” happens especially when you get greedy, cut corners, ignore advice – especially from those who actually do the job.

    And when that “doo-doo” gets really deep and really bad – blame someone else – someone you don’t like. All that matters is that your stockholders get their dividends, you don’t get too exhausted and the mess you made doesn’t dirty your yacht.

    Lesson taught – whatever you do wrong – it is someone else’s fault! Just spin, spin, spin.
    Great post! Sure, there is a lot of "blame" to go around but ultimately it falls on BP, they cut corners and ignored a crew member who reported a problem with a part that wasn't working properly. I saw an interview with 5 of the survivors from the rig explosion, they said there were 3 explosions in all. Earlier that day, 3 of them witnessed a heated discussion between a BP honcho and the drill master. The project was 5 weeks behind schedule and $26 million over budget. The BP honcho said there were to be changes in procedure and the drill master objected saying it was too dangerous. BP said it was not open for discussion, that was how it was to be done and stormed out. We know what happened as a result. And BP has the nerve to continue to minimize the extent of this disaster.
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    I agree with Edwina's Secretary's post for the most part except to remind everyone BP is not exclusively a "foreign" company, it is almost 50% owned by the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puckstop31 View Post
    Side note.... STILL with the out of context "doo doo" line? LOL I always wanted to be (in)famous.
    It seems you have a fan.

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    Why are so many people lining up to scapegoat BP? They arent the only ones who caused this mess. Everybody who hand a hand in this disaster that stood by and let it happen should be held accountable, and actually held accountable in a court of law not a Chicago style shakedown. Transocean, Haliburton, state and fed agencies who signed off on the permits and inspections, the MMS who gave the Deep Water Horizon a safety award all need to be called on the quarterdeck for this. The PotUS and Congress for not working around the Jones act to get the Dutch skimmers into the Gulf when they offered their assistance? Why are the feds hampering states efforts to contain the spill with skimmers and dredging up sand bars?

    BP couldnt have dug up this amount of doo doo on their own.
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    McCain doing what Barry wouldnt.

    Friday U.S. Senator John McCain, R-AZ, introduced legislation for a total repeal of the 1920 maritime law, which mandates that all goods shipped between U.S. ports be transported in U.S.-built, U.S.-owned and U.S.-manned ships.

    Hawaii Congress member Charles Djou, R, D-HI, in a letter June 23, joined GOP congress members from Florida and Texas in asking President Barack Obama for a Jones Act exemption in the Gulf of Mexico. Djou says the law is deterring foreign countries from bringing in highly trained workers and the latest technology to lend their expertise.
    Linkhttp://www.franklincenterhq.org/1788...-of-jones-act/.

    Im torn on this one....

    The Jones Act gave Barry an excuse to let this disaster get as bad as it has, never let a good crisis go to waste. I agree with Djou, exemptions should be made, but not a full blown repeal. But if the only way to get it done is a full blown repeal, lets have it.
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    Hi all:
    These pictures were taken by a friend, on his Turtle Walk this morning at the State Park beach. Trying to keep you all informed of the mess. Another friend has pictures of the beach in Pensacola with oil buried 6 inches before the surface. So very sad and depressing.



    Not a pleasant morning for our Turtle Walk along the beach at Gulf State Park in Gulf Shores, AL.

    Saw no turtle tracks nor turtles. Found much oil and a dead sea bird instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kokopup View Post
    Hi all:
    These pictures were taken by a friend, on his Turtle Walk this morning at the State Park beach. Trying to keep you all informed of the mess. Another friend has pictures of the beach in Pensacola with oil buried 6 inches before the surface. So very sad and depressing.



    Not a pleasant morning for our Turtle Walk along the beach at Gulf State Park in Gulf Shores, AL.

    Saw no turtle tracks nor turtles. Found much oil and a dead sea bird instead.

    Oh wow, those pictures are worst than any I've seen on TV. They can
    clean all they want, but it will never be the same beautiful place it was.
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    I have been awaiting the Super Duper Giant Skimmer from Tawian.

    I thought that it was as big as a whale.


    No stupid, the name of the ship is A Whale.

    I have to start reading my news.

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    I wish the stormy seas would calm down. I really hope this thing works (WHALE)
    as well as they say it could. It would be a big help in cleaning the water.

    This is birthing season for Dolphins, Sea Turtles, and many species of Water
    Birds.


    Mean while, it keeps on gushing......

    http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/l...stream3&hpt=T2
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