200,000 Gallons A Day

**blue** · 05-29-2010, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by Grace

No, you are. You accuse me of something I did not say. I'm just setting the record straight. You're the one calling the former President of the United States Shrub. A bit disrespectful, don't you think? And, to set your mind at rest, I have never called Bush by that nickname. And that is not defensive - that is the truth.

Nice misdirection. At least Im consistent when I disrespect the president, I dont care what party they are from or even if I agree with the job they are doing.

Im not in the least defensive about Obongo dropping the ball in the Gulf, on the Border or going on vacation in Chicago when he should be at Arlington. In fact I think Obama AKA Barry should be in DC this weekend and not in Chicago with his buddies.

On the topic of this thread Obama AKA Barry should be bending over backwards to give BP every helping hand and advantage to plug this leak in the ocean rather then letting his lapdogs posture about pushing the people who know what they are doing and what is at stake out of the way.

I have to give credit to my hard left leaning brother for this, Shrub would have nuked this leak the day after the blowout, he wouldnt have pussyfooted around going to fundraisers.

**wombat2u2004** · 05-30-2010, 02:14 AM

SHRUBBERY !!!! I say.

**pomtzu** · 05-30-2010, 06:53 AM

Well whoever did what - or didn't do what - isn't the issue now. The fact remains, that the oil is still gushing, and the top fill idea is just another act of grasping at straws that didn't work. Back to the drawing board, guys!

**Puckstop31** · 05-30-2010, 08:46 AM

This truly is a big time disaster. Who is to 'blame'?

Ask this question.... Why are they drilling that far offshore and that deep when there are sources closer and more shallow? Or oil shale, or on land resources? Hmmmmm?

Or is it just BP being greedy? Because 'doo doo' occurs, ESPECIALLY when greed is involved. Because I know I would cut corners and be lax about the return I get on a multi-billion dollar investment.

And the best part... The fix is to just stop drilling. Glad this guy was not President during the Moon race.

I know... Being angry and pointing fingers is fun... And the easy way out. Eh?

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We all want 'green' energy. It will take time. 'Doo doo' will occur during the R&D of those sources. Will movement forward on it stop? Will we even know?

Our way of life is utterly dependant on petroleum products. Why not get the EASY and domestic sources while we bring better sources online? Bashing BP does not help.

I mean, I can survive living in the 18th century, but I don't want to. How about you?

**RICHARD** · 05-30-2010, 08:48 AM

Stop and think about it.

If those stupid dinosaurs hadn't died in a group?

No oil and no drilling.

**wombat2u2004** · 05-30-2010, 08:53 AM

We could always tap the White House for methane.

**Catty1** · 05-30-2010, 11:22 AM

I was talking with a geologist friend of mine who has worked in the oil industry for some 30 years. He was detailing how BP was cutting corners before this blowout happened - BP was into profits, and my friend referred to them as "criminals", with a couple of choice adjectives in there.

JMO - the POTUS and his administration does not have the technology to begin to try and deal with this; BP does. It is my understanding that BP answers to the administration as cleanup continues. I know some people are upset that Mr. Obama did not get involved sooner - but I honestly don't see what he could have done onsite that could not be done in the Capitol - being BP's hardline boss in the aftermath of the blowout.

**Puckstop31** · 05-30-2010, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Catty1

I was talking with a geologist friend of mine who has worked in the oil industry for some 30 years. He was detailing how BP was cutting corners before this blowout happened - BP was into profits, and my friend referred to them as "criminals", with a couple of choice adjectives in there.

And if BP broke laws doing so, fry em.

What for profit company is NOT "into" profit? I am not saying that greed was not a factor in this mess however.

All of this does not answer the question as to why BP and others are doing these dangerous deep water drills... When resources are available at shallower depths and on land. If greed was the sole motivation, would they not access the resources that are cheaper to get at? I wonder why they won't or CAN'T?

JMO - the POTUS and his administration does not have the technology to begin to try and deal with this; BP does. It is my understanding that BP answers to the administration as cleanup continues. I know some people are upset that Mr. Obama did not get involved sooner - but I honestly don't see what he could have done onsite that could not be done in the Capitol - being BP's hardline boss in the aftermath of the blowout.

Agreed. The farther he stays from this, the better for everyone.

**RICHARD** · 05-30-2010, 12:09 PM

Just like the hearings and seeing a guy squatting on some beach, playing with tar balls?

I feel my government is doing the best they can, with the TOOLS they have to work with.

**lizbud** · 05-30-2010, 12:19 PM

Satellites track the oil spill.

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...-as-it-changes

**momoffuzzyfaces** · 05-30-2010, 12:22 PM

Now they are going to try and cut the pipe and cap it. Yea, that's a great idea! Make the hole bigger that you can't fit a cap on now. sheesh!!!

Maybe when the oil get loose in the ocean and starts killing other marine life and gets to other countries, maybe by then they will fix it.

**pomtzu** · 05-30-2010, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by momoffuzzyfaces

Now they are going to try and cut the pipe and cap it. Yea, that's a great idea! Make the hole bigger that you can't fit a cap on now. sheesh!!!

Yup - and don't forget the big bucks that these brilliant engineers are getting as they try to find a solution.
All this, as people have lost their livelihood because of the money hungry oil company and their shortcuts, and ignoring the warning that a disaster was impending. They had days to shut the operation down before the explosion actually occurred, yet they chose not to. I wonder how they explain that to the families that lost loved ones in the explosion, the fishermen, restaurant owners, hotel and ocean resorts, whole towns losing tourism money because the beaches are closed, people in the cleanup crews getting deathly sick, and of course the damage to wildlife and the eco system, that will be affected for years and years and years to come........

**RICHARD** · 05-30-2010, 02:06 PM

What happened to the little kid with the finger and the dike?

With the internet they should be able to find him....

**Lady's Human** · 05-30-2010, 02:25 PM

I love this thread.

It's amazing how easy it is to play Monday morning quarterback.

Some things that truly disturb me about this?

Comments from administration officials that "They have their boot on the neck of BP".

Not a comment I want to hear from the government unless they are talking about a foreign adversary. Comments like that should NEVER be made when talking about citizens of the US.

Yep, engineer make too much money. So do accountants, lawyers, doctors, and any other professionals when they're in the spotlight for negative reasons. Want to bet it was an engineer screaming at a beancounter in the background warning them that the fertilizer was about to hit the rotary oscillator?

BTW, Nice touch, Pres. Obama. Truly impressive to skip the ceremonies at Arlington to run home for a quick vacation. The three hours in LA stress you out too much?