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    Sorry you had to go through that Richard, that kind of stuff is unspeakable. A good friend of mine lost her husband 2 years ago and got a wedding invitation for their grandson's wedding, the bride to be's family sent the invitation to her and her husband...what idiots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caseysmom View Post
    Sorry you had to go through that Richard, that kind of stuff is unspeakable. A good friend of mine lost her husband 2 years ago and got a wedding invitation for their grandson's wedding, the bride to be's family sent the invitation to her and her husband...what idiots.

    Check this out.

    I swear this is true,

    My dad and GF dies w/in 6 months of each other.

    In the same batch of mail?

    I got a letter and on the lower left hand corner of the envelope?

    FREE Pre-paid Cremation!
    Detail inside.


    If it's prepaid, it should be free?

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    Here's one to marinate on?

    I called my sis and she was upset.

    She went to the doctor's office and while she was talking to him she found out that there was a mix up with her medical records.

    She has three different chart jackets-all three have to do with her treatment and two have info that together, would have kept the two doctors who are treating her from giving her two types of treatment that contraindicate each other...

    Meaning?

    Had she not investigated/or spoke to her primary physician-the two treatments together may have killer her.

    Lovely.

    I worked in a records room for years and that was a HUGE bug up my arse.

    Don't take for granted that a physician/surgeon/hospital/HMO knows that you....

    Got married.
    Hyphenated your name.
    Changed your name.
    Got divorced
    or have entered a witness protection program.


    YOU are half of your 'medical team' and if you don't take care of YOUR end of the job?

    I had taken the calls of STUPID PATIENTS that have been wed, changed their names, dropped their coverage under their old name, then gone on the spouse's coverage with their new names....All the while accusing me/hospital of losing their records.

    morons.

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    What about Medicare? Somebody seems to have forgotten the people on Medicare, meaning the people in Washington. They are not giving raises for the next two years, and medicine is sky high! My God, we are the poor, but I haven't even heard him talk about the poor, just the middle class, and the rich.(Obama, that is). Maybe I have missed that speech, if I have, sorry.

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    Wait a minute.

    Danny Williams going to U.S. for heart surgery
    Last Updated: Tuesday, February 2, 2010 | 7:21 AM NT Comments632Recommend246

    CBC News
    N.L. Premier Danny Williams is scheduled to have surgery this week. (CBC)

    Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Danny Williams is set to undergo heart surgery this week in the United States.

    CBC News confirmed Monday that Williams, 60, left the province earlier in the day and will have surgery later in the week.

    The premier's office provided few details, beyond confirming that he would have heart surgery and saying that it was not necessarily a routine procedure.

    Deputy Premier Kathy Dunderdale is scheduled to hold a news conference Tuesday morning.

    She's expected to provide more details about Williams's condition, as well as how the provincial government will function during his absence.

    CBC reporter David Cochrane said Williams appeared to be in good health recently. He described the premier as "fairly active," playing pick-up hockey at least once a week when work permits.
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    Hi, blue - haven't seen you for a bit!

    If Danny Williams needs a non-routine heart procedure, chances are the wait lists are too long in Newfoundland.

    It has happened here in Alberta that the provincial health system has paid for a critical procedure to be done out-of-province, and also in the USA.

    One's doctor has to apply, of course - you can't just jump the border and check in to the hospital.

    But yeah, it does happen. Hopefully there will be more details in the days to come.

    If you can pay for it - you can go to where the treatment is. I did that with my sleep test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catty1 View Post
    Hi, blue - haven't seen you for a bit!
    I havent gone anywhere.

    you can't just jump the border and check in to the hospital.
    Sure you can, you said so yourself.

    If you can pay for it - you can go to where the treatment is. I did that with my sleep test.
    I need to get one of those sleep tests done myself.
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    Hey,

    We just killed one of our state reps with a bad surgery.

    I would have thought they killed him by by hemorrhaging.

    Nope, They nicked his bowel.

    Truly tragic....

    I'm betting on a resident surgeon to be involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    Hey,

    We just killed one of our state reps with a bad surgery.

    I would have thought they killed him by by hemorrhaging.

    Nope, They nicked his bowel.

    Truly tragic....

    I'm betting on a resident surgeon to be involved.
    Can they go that surgeon for medical negligence ????
    Sometimes it's just so hard to prove, and when it does happen the medico's close ranks. That's what happens here.
    I attended a funeral of one of my veteran welfare clients on Friday, we all know here what happened to him, he was wrongly diagnosed a couple of years ago by one of our doctors here, by the time he was properly diagnosed, the cancer had spread too far, and he was gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat2u2004 View Post
    Can they go that surgeon for medical negligence ????
    Sometimes it's just so hard to prove, and when it does happen the medico's close ranks. That's what happens here.
    I attended a funeral of one of my veteran welfare clients on Friday, we all know here what happened to him, he was wrongly diagnosed a couple of years ago by one of our doctors here, by the time he was properly diagnosed, the cancer had spread too far, and he was gone.

    It depends.

    If you join a Health Maintenance Orgranization, somemtimes you sign away your right to sue. All claims are handled by an ombudsman, who is supposed to be impartial. In your dreams.

    About 6 months before I was fired from my job, a 35-40 year old man had his hepatic artery nicked and bled to death on the table, A simple gall bladder surgery, done by a resident, gone wrong.

    Another thing that people do not realize is that some hosptial have 'incident reports' that are not part of a medical record, those are filled out and submitted to a Quality Assurance office/group and they bury those beause of the possible liabilites that may arise should the 'real story' get out.

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    Ombudsman Office is the same here, they are toothless tigers.
    As they say mate, doctors mistakes are buried.

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    Here's a HUGE problem with the companies that make implant/med devices.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36158151...new_york_times


    The ortho surgeon mentions the DePuy and Zimmer hips.

    Those hips have been failing since 2006. There was a rush of people having implants redone because of defects in the joints.

    Also?

    In the summer of '06 there was a rush of defibrillator surgeries because the mfg. recalled scads of them.

    The hospital had to set up special rooms where the surgeons/cardiologists did nothing but replacement surgeries. The whole OR was sent into a panic and the reps from the company had to come in with replacement defibs and work all day to help change them out.

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    As the population ages, the use of artificial hips and knees is growing fast, providing a lucrative market for device manufacturers. Sales of artificial hips and knees in this country reached an estimated $6.7 billion last year, and the devices have one of the highest profit margins of any medical product. An artificial joint can cost $3,000 to $15,000.

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    It is impossible to know how many artificial hips and knees fail early because of design or manufacturing problems, because the United States, unlike some other countries, has no database to track such procedures. Also, implant companies and doctors say that such devices primarily fail because of issues unrelated to the product.

    LOL, this has got to be the biggest lie on the planet.

    Implants come with bar coded labels that are supposed to be attached to the operating room record and surgery procedure records. The are also serial numbered and the reps that sell them do keep track of lot and serial numbers.

    Since most operating rooms track surgeries by computer? They just have to pull all hip and knee surgeries, then pull out the cases when a patient name is repeated.

    And to top that off? Sugeries that are redone are coded as a "Revision" which means that it was done once and redone a second time.

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    This is one part of the Health Care Reform that should have been addresed BEFORE anything was voted on.

    But, common sense isn't running rampant anywhere near the seat of power for the U.S. gov't.

    Morons.

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    http://www.aolnews.com/politics/arti...ote%2F19423395

    Susan Lydick, 51, is not one of them. She approached Connolly after the Rotary speech.

    "I just have to thank you for your vote. It's going to make a big difference in my life," said Lydick, a Fairfax psychologist. Both of her daughters have mental health problems, and one of her biggest worries is how they will get health insurance on their own. Under the new law, insurance companies can't deny coverage to those with pre-existing conditions.



    How do you think her kids got mental? Ya think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICHARD View Post
    How do you think her kids got mental? Ya think?
    They were dropped on their heads at birth ????


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