Don't ask, Don't tell

[smokey the elder]

I'm sure the first female plebe at each service acadamy had a few issues.

[Lady's Human]

If the unrest is simply that, yes. There was unrest when the service was integrated, but it settled down after some time. Hopefully this is handled well, and the same will happen.

Not completely, but that wouldn't be politically correct news, now, would it?

[lizbud]

What are the straights afraid of? Do they think gays will attack the first
man/woman after getting rid of DADT? LOL The younger aged "kids" moving
up in the military ranks nowadays, don't have the old prejudices. I think
the removal of DADT, will not be as big a problem , as some think.

[Lady's Human]

The end of DADT will be a bloody (literally bloody) nightmare, but you'll probably never hear about it.

It will just get piled into the pile of training that units have to do during the week. Be nice to everyone training, cultural/ethnic/racial/sexual/don't sleep with the commander/his wife/his dog/ training that already takes one training day per week out of the training cycle for mandatory classes.

How about this.......

When you can convincingly prove that all the other social stressors in military units have been effectively handled, then end DADT.

Until then, leave it well enough alone.

Too much upheaval in the force in the middle of a war isn't exactly a brilliant suggestion, and goes further to show how distanced the JCS are from the troops.

[caseysmom]

What are the straights afraid of? Do they think gays will attack the first
man/woman after getting rid of DADT? LOL The younger aged "kids" moving
up in the military ranks nowadays, don't have the old prejudices. I think
the removal of DADT, will not be as big a problem , as some think.

Actually a lot of the young military guys still feel the same way, I think they don't want to be showering etc with guys that like other guys. I guess I can see their point.

[lizbud]

Actually a lot of the young military guys still feel the same way, I think they don't want to be showering etc with guys that like other guys. I guess I can see their point.

Well, I can always dream that people are getting smarter and
kinder with every generation.

Maybe I should look up more stats on this question. Can't hurt.

[caseysmom]

Well, I can always dream that people are getting smarter and
kinder with every generation.

Maybe I should look up more stats on this question. Can't hurt.

Some things take a long time to change unfortunately.

[RICHARD]

Johnny Weir, Olympic Figure Skater.

Proudly serving on the U.S. Skating team?

Don't ask?

[Karen]

Johnny Weir, Olympic Figure Skater.

Proudly serving on the U.S. Skating team?

Don't ask?

No need to.

[Puckstop31]

Well, I can always dream that people are getting smarter and
kinder with every generation.

Maybe I should look up more stats on this question. Can't hurt.

"Smarter"? "Kinder"? By who's standard?

Then "Stats" on this 'question'?


Subjective much?


Are you willfully ignoring everything LH and I are saying? People, you know, who actually really served in the REAL Army and can tell you that 3/4's of the stuff you read is not true?

Of course not....

[RICHARD]

Look, If ANYONE can make it thru bootcamp, an academy or training to become a soldier? More power to them.

I realy doubt that any gay person is there for fun and games, especially when everyone else in the program has a gun, too

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I am for gay marriage, why should straight people be the only ones taking the chance on being miserable forever?

Every 'cause' for the past 30-40 years gets front page notoriety, then someone from the group goes stupid and the whole movement gets painted with the brush....

People like this Johnny Weir, set whatever faction he's involved with back a few years. Some kid named Rudy Galindo was the first openly gay ice skater.

And you know what, more power to him.

It dont affect my life.

It's always the people at the extreme fringe that make it worse for the people who just want to exist and be treated fairly in life.

Who you like and who you have shoot at don't really have any connecttion, It's about being able to pull the trigger at the right time and not do any collateral damage, when you do.


Go back to sleep everyone.

The straight and gay soldiers will die long before any of us civilians.....Maybe we should leave them be for willing to risk THEIR lives and lifestyles ahead of ours?

[blue]

If the unrest is simply that, yes. There was unrest when the service was integrated, but it settled down after some time. Hopefully this is handled well, and the same will happen.

So the gays should be segregated on bases and while deployed? Should they receive separate training as well? They should be treated as a special protected group?

Causing unrest while troops are deployed IMHO is not a good idea.

I dont think anybody has said the gays shouldnt be in the military in this thread, but it should be left to the military on how to openly let the gays integrate in the military.

[wombat2u2004]

Johnny Weir, Olympic Figure Skater.

Proudly serving on the U.S. Skating team?

Don't ask?

Looks like he's ready to go out on the town with the boys.
Or the gals ???
You know what they say....boys will be girls and girls will be boys etc etc..LOLOL

[wombat2u2004]

It dont affect my life.

It might if Johnny Weir got a hold of ya....hee hee

[RICHARD]

I have to clarify my point..

I don't who you date.

I feel that who you have a relationship with is your own business. I really am put out when people do the PDA thing or start to talk raunchy about "last night". I am not a prude and love a great dirty joke, but when you start to talk about your SO - who I happened to meet at the last party/function/get together- you have overstepped the line.

It's your business, not mine.

I have always been of the mind that you come to work, work, go home- when your homelife follows you in, that's not good.

I find any couple doing the kissy face, grab arse-ing in public to be disrespectful, obnoxious and rude.If they treat a relationship with such ilittle thought in public, they probably treat their professional life the same way.

But hey, I am more afraid of the straight, religiously radical moron trying to light his testicles on fire because he's wearing BVDs soaked in kerosene.

I somehow suspect that they are harder to deal with than gay people. it's just a hunch!